{"id":16260,"date":"2025-12-03T10:23:33","date_gmt":"2025-12-03T09:23:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/apostolowiemilosci.pl\/?p=16260"},"modified":"2025-12-03T10:26:19","modified_gmt":"2025-12-03T09:26:19","slug":"ks-kramer-o-trzeciej-tajemnicy-fatimskiej-rosji-i-polityce-globalnej-czesc-2-transkrypcja","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/apostolowiemilosci.pl\/?p=16260","title":{"rendered":"Ks. Kramer o Trzeciej Tajemnicy Fatimskiej, Rosji i polityce globalnej: cz\u0119\u015b\u0107 2 \/ transkrypcja \/"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Stephen Kokx: Jak d\u0142ugo jeszcze potrwa ten kryzys i kiedy my\u015blisz, \u017ce go zobaczymy? >> <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr Kramer: Nie s\u0105dz\u0119, \u017ceby trwa\u0142 tak d\u0142ugo, jak 2035 rok. To kwestia opinii, mojego os\u0105du, ale nie s\u0105dz\u0119, \u017ceby wyszed\u0142 poza 20, 30, 32 lub 33 rok w najbli\u017csz\u0105 sytuacj\u0119.<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">S.Kokx: Witajcie w programie \u201eKo\u015bci\u00f3\u0142 i Pa\u0144stwo\u201d ze Stephenem Coxem. To program po\u015bwi\u0119cony wszystkiemu, co dotyczy katolicyzmu. Wszystkiemu co dotyczy polityki i wszystkiego, co pomi\u0119dzy. C\u00f3\u017c, dzisiaj mamy bardzo specjalnego go\u015bcia, o kt\u00f3rym prawdopodobnie s\u0142yszeli\u015bcie ju\u017c wcze\u015bniej, ojca Paula Kramera. Jest on powszechnie znanym tradycyjnym ksi\u0119dzem katolickim, kt\u00f3ry napisa\u0142 wiele ksi\u0105\u017cek i artyku\u0142\u00f3w na szereg temat\u00f3w, w tym Matk\u0119 Bo\u017c\u0105 Fatimsk\u0105, proroctwa i kwesti\u0119 tak zwanej rezygnacji Benedykta, a tak\u017ce lata Burggalio. Ojciec Kramer by\u0142 r\u00f3wnie\u017c d\u0142ugoletnim przyjacielem zmar\u0142ego ojca Nicholasa Grunera, za\u0142o\u017cyciela Centrum Fatimus. Jak wi\u0119c mo\u017cecie sobie wyobrazi\u0107, b\u0119dziemy mieli dzisiaj wiele do om\u00f3wienia. Chcia\u0142bym teraz powita\u0107 w programie ojca Paula Kramera. Dzi\u0119kuj\u0119, ksi\u0119\u017ce, za przybycie tutaj. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr Kramer : >> Och, jak mi\u0142o tu by\u0107. >> <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">S.Kokx: My\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce wiele os\u00f3b jest zainteresowanych tym, co robisz obecnie, czy mo\u017cesz nam powiedzie\u0107, gdzie jeste\u015b, co robisz w swojej s\u0142udze, poniewa\u017c czytali twoje ksi\u0105\u017cki przez ostatnie wiele lat, \u017ce jeste\u015b naprawd\u0119 osob\u0105 publiczn\u0105. Ja sam doceni\u0142em twoj\u0105 ksi\u0105\u017ck\u0119 \u201eTajemnica nieprawo\u015bci\u201d. Wspomn\u0119 o tym zaraz, ale czy mo\u017cesz nas poinformowa\u0107, gdzie jeste\u015b i co robisz? <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr.Kramer: No c\u00f3\u017c, jak to zazwyczaj bywa, po osi\u0105gni\u0119ciu pewnego wieku, ksi\u0119\u017ca zazwyczaj przechodz\u0105 na emerytur\u0119 w wieku 70 lat. Wi\u0119c, jestem teraz w tej, e, kategorii. Jestem wi\u0119c na emeryturze, ale nie przechodz\u0119 na emerytur\u0119, wiesz, nie przechodzi si\u0119 na emerytur\u0119 z bycia kap\u0142anem. Eee, ca\u0142e \u017cycie&#8230; Po prostu&#8230; Ju\u017c postanowi\u0142em, \u017ce dop\u00f3ki b\u0119d\u0119 wystarczaj\u0105co sprawny fizycznie, b\u0119d\u0119 kontynuowa\u0142 swoj\u0105 pos\u0142ug\u0119 kap\u0142a\u0144sk\u0105, niezale\u017cnie od tego, jak, niezale\u017cnie od mojego wieku b\u0119dzie. >> Wi\u0119c, oficjalnie jestem na emeryturze, ale nadal kontynuuj\u0119 swoj\u0105 pos\u0142ug\u0119 kap\u0142a\u0144sk\u0105 w ka\u017cdy mo\u017cliwy spos\u00f3b. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">S.Kokx: >> Tak. I widz\u0119, \u017ce jest napisane, \u017ce jest ks. prezesem S\u0142ug Jezusa i Maryi. Czy mo\u017ce nam ks wyja\u015bni\u0107 ten tytu\u0142? <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr Kramer: To jest organizacja, kt\u00f3ra po\u0142\u0105czy\u0142a si\u0119 z kanadyjskim Apostolatem Fatimskim ks. Nicholasa Grunera. My\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce to by\u0142 1988 rok, kiedy nast\u0105pi\u0142o oficjalne po\u0142\u0105czenie. stali si\u0119 dwiema stowarzyszonymi korporacjami, jedn\u0105 apostolsk\u0105, jedn\u0105 organizacj\u0105 dwiema, dwiema korporacjami, jedn\u0105 kanadyjsk\u0105 i jedn\u0105 ameryka\u0144sk\u0105. I , wi\u0119c byli\u015bmy s\u0142u\u017cb\u0105 Jezusa a Maryja zosta\u0142a zarejestrowana w tym w stanie Nowy Jork jako Centrum Fatimskie ju\u017c w 1994 roku. Mhm. >> Wi\u0119c razem dzia\u0142ali\u015bmy w tym apostolacie, s\u0142ugami Jezusa i Maryj\u0105 i narodowym pielgrzymem Matki Boskiej Kanady. Byli\u015bmy razem jednym apostolatem Fatimskim a\u017c do kr\u00f3tko po \u015bmierci ojca Nicholasa Gunera, niech B\u00f3g ma go w swojej opiece jego dusz\u0119. I wi\u0119c to jest historia naszej organizacji.  byli\u015bmy, byli\u015bmy, byli\u015bmy, byli\u015bmy znani, razem jako Centrum Fatimskie dla wszystkich przez te dekady. Kr\u00f3tko po 1988 roku  zosta\u0142 prezesem, by\u0142 cz\u0142onkiem zarz\u0105du by\u0142 cz\u0142onkiem zarz\u0105du cz\u0142onkiem zarz\u0105du od 1988 roku, prezesem wkr\u00f3tce, wkr\u00f3tce potem,  i i to by\u0142o razem z kanadyjskim apostat\u0105, razem byli Centrum Fatimskie >> a ojciec Guruda by\u0142 prezesem i jestem jego nast\u0119pc\u0105 jako prezes jego ameryka\u0144skiego apostolatu fatimskiego, to jest Jezus i Maryja <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">S.Kokx: >> wspaniale, a oto zdj\u0119cie ojca Sam Gunnar jest twoj\u0105 ocen\u0105, gdzie znajduje si\u0119 dzi\u015b Ko\u015bci\u00f3\u0142. Czy \u017cyjemy w b\u0142ogos\u0142awionych czasach, kt\u00f3re przepowiedzia\u0142a Katherine Emer i uh znowu gdzie, gdzie jest Ko\u015bci\u00f3\u0142? Czy to po prostu miejsce, w kt\u00f3rym musimy znale\u017a\u0107 nasze wszystko, co mamy, to ksi\u0105dz, kt\u00f3rego si\u0119 kurczowo trzymamy? Czy to w\u0142a\u015bnie musimy teraz zrobi\u0107? <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr.Kramer: >> W tej kwestii panuje jednoznaczno\u015b\u0107 proroctw. >> To nie tylko b\u0142ogos\u0142awiona Katarzyna Emerald  to jest w Trzeciej Tajemnicy Fatimskiej a proroctwie. Uh, ja pami\u0119tam, \u017ce s\u0142ysza\u0142em to by\u0142o gdzie\u015b w latach 50  i to wyja\u015bnia, dlaczego mia\u0142e\u015b wiele kopert, jedna z nich w kopercie w drugiej kopercie, a jedna jest zaklejona ta\u015bm\u0105. Mhm. >> Uh, to by\u0142a tajemnica, dop\u00f3ki nie znalaz\u0142em tego, ja, ja, robi\u0105c research, dowiedzia\u0142em si\u0119, \u017ce papie\u017c Pius I XII ujawni\u0142 Trzeci\u0105 Tajemnic\u0119 Fatimsk\u0105, kt\u00f3ra zosta\u0142a opublikowana w gazecie w Kanadzie. Papie\u017c Pastor I XII otworzy\u0142 tajemnic\u0119. >> Tak, >> ten fakt zosta\u0142 opublikowany. Tak, >> opublikowano akt, \u017ce otworzy\u0142 tajemnic\u0119 i j\u0105 przeczyta\u0142. >> a pierwsze s\u0142owa, kt\u00f3re wysz\u0142y z jego ust, brzmia\u0142y: Kanada, kto to jest Kanada. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">S.Kokx: >> Co? >> I uh, wi\u0119c otworzy\u0142 tajemnic\u0119. Przeczyta\u0142 tajemnic\u0119. Teraz >> co to znaczy, jak my\u015blisz?<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr. Kramer:  >> To ju\u017c inna kwestia, bo [\u015bmiech] co jest wa\u017cne? M\u00f3wimy teraz o ko\u015bciele. >> Mhm. >> I uh Padre Pio, uh, \u015bwi\u0119ty mia\u0142 uh conf powiedzia\u0142 ojcu Gabrielowi Amortowi, \u017ce Nasza Matka Boska wyjawi\u0142a mu trzeci\u0105 tajemnic\u0119. >> Mhm. >> A on powiedzia\u0142: \u201eGabriel, rozumiesz, \u017ce szatan wszed\u0142 w samo \u0142ono ko\u015bcio\u0142a i wkr\u00f3tce powstanie fa\u0142szywy ko\u015bci\u00f3\u0142\u201d. To jest w\u0142a\u015bnie trzecia tajemnica fatimska. Pio nam to m\u00f3wi i, kiedy Pasult ujawni\u0142 sekret, nie nie zosta\u0142 on upubliczniony, nie by\u0142o komunikatu prasowego, jak za czas\u00f3w Jana 23-go ukaza\u0142 si\u0119 komunikat prasowy, \u017ce by\u0142 otwarty, przeczytany, ale potem zosta\u0142 odsprzedany i nie b\u0119dzie nie b\u0119dzie w kt\u00f3rym roku to si\u0119 wydarzy\u0142o? pod koniec lat 50., na pocz\u0105tku pontyfikatu lub kiedy to przeczyta\u0142 >> Jana 23-go >> Nie jestem pewien dok\u0142adnie S\u0142ysza\u0142em, jak kto\u015b m\u00f3wi\u0142 o 1957 roku, ale potem historia, historia, historia w kanadyjskiej gazecie by\u0142a wcze\u015bniej. Wi\u0119c mo\u017ce to by\u0107 zanik pami\u0119ci osoby, kt\u00f3ra opowiedzia\u0142a t\u0119 histori\u0119. Ale jedno jest pewne: Ksi\u0105dz, kt\u00f3ry towarzyszy\u0142 ojcu, kardyna\u0142owi, Samuelowi Stretchowi, do Rzymu, kiedy by\u0142 ksi\u0119dzem o nazwisku ojciec Lawrence Emtt Hughes. Towarzyszy\u0142 kardyna\u0142owi Stretchowi w podr\u00f3\u017cy do Rzymu, kiedy Pius I XII otworzy\u0142 tajemnic\u0119 i przeczyta\u0142 j\u0105 >> i nie m\u00f3g\u0142 ujawni\u0107 ca\u0142ej tajemnicy, tak jak ojciec Maliki Martin nie m\u00f3g\u0142 ujawni\u0107 ca\u0142ej tajemnicy, ale by\u0142o tam co\u015b tak wa\u017cnego, \u017ce ostrzeg\u0142 grup\u0119 ludzi, gdy by\u0142 z grup\u0105 swojej dalszej rodziny w Los Angeles. My\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce to by\u0142o w 1957 roku, kiedy to powiedzia\u0142. i powiedzia\u0142, \u017ce w trzeciej tajemnicy, eee przepowiada, \u017ce \u200b\u200bnast\u0105pi ruch liturgiczny, reforma liturgiczna. eee, m\u00f3wi, \u017ce nie ma to z tym nic wsp\u00f3lnego. poniewa\u017c stopniowo doprowadzi to do, eee, do zniesienia samej mszy \u015bwi\u0119tej, \u017ce sama msza \u015bwi\u0119ta, \u015bwi\u0119ta ofiara mszy, zostanie ostatecznie zniesiona. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">S. Kokx: >> To w\u0142a\u015bnie m\u00f3wi lub implikuje w zasadzie trzecia tajemnica. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr Kramer: >> Tak to m\u00f3wi. Eee, tak to m\u00f3wi. To w\u0142a\u015bnie kardyna\u0142 Streitz, eee ogranicza\u0142 si\u0119 do swojego \u00f3wczesnego asystenta, tego ojca Hughesa, eee, kt\u00f3ry ujawni\u0142 aspekt tajemnicy >> i Padre Pio powiedzia\u0142, eee, \u017ce powstanie ten fa\u0142szywy ko\u015bci\u00f3\u0142, eee \u017ce na czele fa\u0142szywego ko\u015bcio\u0142a stanie szatan. >> Mhm. Teraz cofamy si\u0119 do 1861 roku, na d\u0142ugo przed Vataba eee, kardyna\u0142 Henry Edward Manning przemawia\u0142 na ten temat. >> Powiedzia\u0142, , Rzym  to by\u0142o przed powstaniem Watykanu jako bytu. Wi\u0119c ludzie nie m\u00f3wili o Watykanie przed , przed Watykanem przed traktatem latera\u0144skim, ustanawi\u0105cym Watykan jako miasto-pa\u0144stwo. Eee, s\u0142owo Watykan by\u0142o raczej wyra\u017ceniem. Nie chodzi\u0142o o to, \u017ce nie by\u0142a to instytucja tak bardzo podobna do Watykanu, czyli hierarchii ko\u015bcielnej, kurii papieskiej, kt\u00f3ra by\u0142a u\u017cywana zwykle nazywaj\u0105 to Rzymem. >> Mhm. >> Rzym ko\u015bcielny. >> Mhm. Wi\u0119c, no c\u00f3\u017c, w 1861 roku kardyna\u0142 Manning nie m\u00f3wi\u0142 o Watykanie. >> M\u00f3wi\u0142 o Rzymie. Ale jasny kontekst m\u00f3wi o Rzymie ko\u015bcielnym, o kurii rzymskiej hierarchii. I m\u00f3wi, \u017ce prawdziwy wikariusz Chrystusa zostanie wygnany z Rzymu. Ten Rzym powr\u00f3ci. Innymi s\u0142owy, Watykan przejmie poga\u0144stwo. >> Tak. Ko\u015bci\u00f3\u0142 >> Babilonu zasadniczo. Tak. Czy\u017c nie w to si\u0119 przekszta\u0142ci\u0142? >> Zgadza si\u0119. Tak,<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"> >> prawdziwy Ko\u015bci\u00f3\u0142 m\u00f3wi, \u017ce to jest to, co on m\u00f3wi, \u017ce stanie si\u0119 niewidzialny. B\u0119dzie si\u0119 wydawa\u0142o, jakby Ko\u015bci\u00f3\u0142 zosta\u0142 zmieciony z powierzchni ziemi. >> Mhm. >> I m\u00f3wi, i \u017ceby to wyja\u015bni\u0107, powiedzia\u0142, \u017ce to nie jest jego w\u0142asna opinia. Powiedzia\u0142, \u017ce nauczaj\u0105 tego jednomy\u015blnie staro\u017cytni ojcowie i cytuje kilka im wi\u0119cej, tym bardziej istotnych fragment\u00f3w staro\u017cytnych ojc\u00f3w na ten temat poniewa\u017c macie kilku, uh, radykalnych fundamentalist\u00f3w, takich jak John Salsza, kto, kto, kto, kto, kto, \u017ce Ko\u015bci\u00f3\u0142 pozostanie, jest widocznie widoczny przez wszystkie czasy, nawet w tym, wspania\u0142ym wyj\u0105tkowym czasie prze\u015bladowa\u0144, kiedy staro\u017cytni ojcowie byli jednomy\u015blni, m\u00f3wi\u0105c, \u017ce b\u0119dzie si\u0119 wydawa\u0107, jakby Ko\u015bci\u00f3\u0142 znikn\u0105\u0142 z powierzchni ziemi. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">S. Kokx: >> Tak, mam kilka pyta\u0144 dotycz\u0105cych trzeciej tajemnicy. Hmm, to jest takie ciekawe. Nigdy nie s\u0142ysza\u0142em o 12. poniewa\u017c cytowano go, m\u00f3wi\u0105cego o biednej Kanadzie. Jestem tym naprawd\u0119 zaintrygowany. Nie wiem, czy mo\u017cesz powiedzie\u0107 co\u015b wi\u0119cej na ten temat. Ale, hm, chyba moje drugie pytanie brzmi: dlaczego nie konsekrowa\u0142 Rosji, skoro przeczyta\u0142 tajemnic\u0119 i przewidzia\u0142, co w niej powiedziano? A potem, dlaczego, je\u015bli teraz jest tak, jak m\u00f3wisz o liturgii i rewolucji w liturgii, hm, mam na my\u015bli, \u017ce on je\u015bli to wydarzenie mia\u0142o miejsce w 57 roku, to rok przed jego \u015bmierci\u0105, kiedy by\u0142 w z\u0142ym stanie zdrowia, ale dwa lata po reformach z 55 roku, kt\u00f3re powinny go zaalarmowa\u0107, \u017ceby powiedzia\u0142: \u201eHej, ten facet z Annabel Bonini nie jest dobry\u201d. Wiem, \u017ce jest kilka pyta\u0144, ale jakie s\u0105 wasze przemy\u015blenia na ten temat? <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr Kramer: No c\u00f3\u017c, dotycz\u0105ce konsekrowania Rosji,  zosta\u0142 wprowadzony w b\u0142\u0105d, ten, kt\u00f3ry t\u0142umaczy\u0142 i wyja\u015bni\u0142 pro\u015bb\u0119 Matki Bo\u017cej z Fatimy dotycz\u0105c\u0105 konsekracji Rosji, eee przypadkowo by\u0142 jezuit\u0105 i nie uwa\u017ca\u0142 tego za stosowne. Jezuita nie uwa\u017ca\u0142 tego za s\u0142uszne. By\u0107 zbyt dosadnym w kwestii konsekracji Rosji przez biskup\u00f3w wraz z papie\u017cem. Mhm. >> Uwa\u017ca\u0142, \u017ce to nie b\u0119dzie s\u0142uszne. Eee, jakby, no c\u00f3\u017c, to znaczy, on nie wierzy\u0142 w moc Boga. Ten jezuita, poniewa\u017c >>, wszyscy ci ludzie, kt\u00f3rzy powiedzieliby, \u017ce je\u015bli po\u015bwi\u0119cisz Rosj\u0119, to Rosja si\u0119 zem\u015bci. To by\u0142o, gdy Rosja by\u0142a komunistyczna. Rosja by\u0142a sowiecka i standardow\u0105 odpowiedzi\u0105 by\u0142o, \u017ce je\u015bli papie\u017c i biskupi mieliby wy\u0142\u0105cznie konsekrowa\u0107 Rosj\u0119, albo komunistyczna Rosja zamierza si\u0119 strasznie zem\u015bci\u0107 na Ko\u015bciele. To po prostu dowodzi, \u017ce ci ludzie nie nie wierzyli w Matk\u0119 Bo\u017c\u0105 Fatimsk\u0105. Nie wierzyli jej przes\u0142aniu, mimo \u017ce to przes\u0142anie zosta\u0142o uwierzytelnione przez najbardziej niesamowity cud po po biblijnych czasach, wielki cud s\u0142o\u0144ca. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">S. Kokx: >> Czy widzia\u0142 to po 12-tym, swoj\u0105 drog\u0105, ze swojego balkonu? Czy to nie jest raport? Sam widzia\u0142 cud. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr. Kramer: >> Widzia\u0142 co\u015b podobnego. Czy to by\u0142 dok\u0142adnie ten sam cud, czy nie, tego nie wiem, bo nie wiem, co dok\u0142adnie widzia\u0142, ale widzia\u0142 co\u015b w tym rodzaju. >> Mhm. >> I zdarza\u0142y si\u0119 podobne manifestacje o tej samej naturze. Pami\u0119tam kwiecie\u0144 1980, kiedy Bruno Konakola z Rzymu, widz\u0105cy s\u0142ynnego objawienia, teraz, tu\u017c naprzeciwko klasztoru Tontan, gdzie nawr\u00f3ci\u0142 si\u0119 ze swojej, herezji i zosta\u0142 pobo\u017cnym katolikiem. Kiedy odprawiono msz\u0119 w tym sanktuarium, w kwietniu, to by\u0142o w niedziel\u0119, je\u015bli dobrze pami\u0119tam dat\u0119. My\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce to by\u0142o 13 kwietnia, my\u015bl\u0119. My\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce to by\u0142o 13 kwietnia, w niedziel\u0119 1980 roku, kiedy Cornacola by\u0142 obecny na tej mszy. To by\u0142o w sanktuarium, w miejscu objawienia i by\u0142 tam cud podobny do cudu syna Fatimskiego, kt\u00f3ry mia\u0142 miejsce tego dnia. >> Mhm. >> Dobrze. Wi\u0119c, eee, znowu, nie by\u0142em w Fatimie, wi\u0119c nie wiem. Nie mog\u0119 por\u00f3wna\u0107 jednego cudu z drugim, ale ten w Fatimie by\u0142 szczeg\u00f3lnie godny uwagi, poniewa\u017c b\u0142oto si\u0119ga\u0142o kostek i eee ziemia wysch\u0142a. >> Mhm. >> A ubrania ludzi, ludzie byli po prostu przesi\u0105kni\u0119ci wod\u0105 i, eee, deszcz la\u0142, la\u0142 deszcz na wszystkich tam obecnych. To by\u0142o okropne. I w ci\u0105gu zaledwie kilku minut, eee, ich ubrania by\u0142y suche i czyste. Ziemia ziemia nie by\u0142a ju\u017c b\u0142ota. Zn\u00f3w by\u0142a sucha. >> I to jest w\u0142a\u015bnie ten rozmiar cudu, kt\u00f3ry si\u0119 wydarzy\u0142. A nasza Pani powiedzia\u0142a w lipcu, \u017ce uczyni cud, \u017ceby wszyscy uwierzyli. Ale oczywi\u015bcie zbyt wielu mitrowych g\u0142\u00f3w w Rzymie, nie wierzyli i zbyt wielu teolog\u00f3w nie wierzy\u0142o, poniewa\u017c my\u015bleli, \u017ce to pusta obietnica kt\u00f3r\u0105 z\u0142o\u017cy\u0142a Matka Boska, \u017ce \u200b\u200bRosja nawr\u00f3ci si\u0119, kiedy to po\u015bwi\u0119cenie zostanie dokonane uroczy\u015bcie i publicznie po\u015bwi\u0119cenie Rosji Niepokalanemu sercu Maryi dokonane przez papie\u017ca wsp\u00f3lnie ze wszystkimi biskupami \u015bwiata >> niebo, sam B\u00f3g obiecuje pok\u00f3j <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">>> nawr\u00f3cenie Rosji i pok\u00f3j na \u015bwiecie >> ale nie wierz\u0105 w t\u0119 obietnic\u0119 poniewa\u017c twierdz\u0105, \u017ce m\u00f3wili i niekt\u00f3rzy nadal m\u00f3wi\u0105, \u017ce uh, to zniszczy relacje religijne, to zniszczy ekumeniczne relacje z prawos\u0142awnymi z rosyjskim prawos\u0142awnym, uh, to wzbudzi wrogo\u015b\u0107 Rosji wobec Ko\u015bcio\u0142a. W zasadzie m\u00f3wi\u0105, \u017ce naszej Matce Fatimskiej nie mo\u017cna ufa\u0107 >> albo wiedz\u0105, jaki by\u0142by rezultat i nie chc\u0105 tego, poniewa\u017c ich Ko\u015bci\u00f3\u0142 zosta\u0142 zinfiltrowany i chc\u0105 wojny, \u015bmierci i chc\u0105 w zasadzie wykonywa\u0107 dzie\u0142o Antychrysta. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">>> Chc\u0105 jedno\u015bci i r\u00f3\u017cnorodno\u015bci. Chc\u0105 ko\u015bcio\u0142a centralnego,  w interkomunie komunii, mi\u0119dzywyznaniowej komunii ze wszystkimi innymi ko\u015bcio\u0142ami \u015bwiata. Tego chc\u0105. Ostatni\u0105 rzecz\u0105 na \u015bwiecie, kt\u00f3rej pragn\u0105, jest nawr\u00f3cenie Rosji na wiar\u0119 katolick\u0105 i dla Rosji, eee jak \u015bw. Pawe\u0142, aposto\u0142 narod\u00f3w, \u017ce Rosja b\u0119dzie latarni\u0105 wiary i \u015bwiat\u0142em, kt\u00f3re nawr\u00f3ci narody \u015bwiata. >> Nawr\u00f3ci\u0107 narody \u015bwiata. Eee oni tego nie chc\u0105. Ci kardyna\u0142owie i biskupi maso\u0144scy, to ostatnia rzecz na \u015bwiecie, kt\u00f3rej chc\u0105. Nie chc\u0105, nie chc\u0105 tradycji apostolskiej. Nie chc\u0105 tej starej wiary. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">S. Kokx: >> Chc\u0105, \u017ceby\u015b napisa\u0142 o tym w swojej ksi\u0105\u017cce \u201eOstateczna bitwa diab\u0142a\u201d, kt\u00f3r\u0105 przeczyta\u0142em wiele lat temu. Ukaza\u0142a si\u0119 w 2002 roku. I omawiasz trzeci\u0105 tajemnic\u0119. M\u00f3wisz o wydarzeniach globalnych, nawet o 1 wrze\u015bnia. 1 w tym czasie. I wierz\u0119 w t\u0119 ksi\u0105\u017ck\u0119, Ojcze, to w\u0142a\u015bnie tutaj us\u0142ysza\u0142em t\u0119 konkretn\u0105 wersj\u0119 trzeciej tajemnicy. Hm, to od Novasa Erdogatcha. To jest rzekoma wersja trzeciej tajemnicy, kt\u00f3r\u0105 us\u0142ysza\u0142 francuski ksi\u0105dz w 1994 roku i chc\u0119 j\u0105 przeczyta\u0107 i pozna\u0107 twoj\u0105 opini\u0119 na jej temat. Zn\u00f3w, wydaje mi si\u0119, \u017ce to by\u0142o na ko\u0144cu twojej ksi\u0105\u017cki, gdzie us\u0142ysza\u0142em to po raz pierwszy. To rzekomo us\u0142ysza\u0142 ten ksi\u0105dz w latach 90. B\u0119dzie zaplanowany i przygotowany niegodziwy sob\u00f3r, kt\u00f3ry zmieni oblicze Ko\u015bcio\u0142a. Wielu straci wiar\u0119. Zamieszanie zapanuje wsz\u0119dzie itd. Schizma rozdar\u0142a \u015bwi\u0119t\u0105 tunik\u0119 mojego syna. To b\u0119d\u0105 czasy ostateczne przepowiedziane w pismach \u015bwi\u0119tych i przypominam sobie o tym w wielu miejscach. Ta ohyda, ohyda, ohyda osi\u0105gnie sw\u00f3j szczyt itd. Hmm, czy pami\u0119tasz t\u0119 konkretn\u0105 tajemnic\u0119, ten dodatek i co o tym s\u0105dzisz? <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr. Kramer: Uh, z wieloma z tych, rzekomych tajemnic, s\u0105 one spisane wyra\u017anie spisane przez ludzi, kt\u00f3rzy s\u0105 wtajemniczeni w tre\u015b\u0107 tajemnicy. Mhm. >> Wi\u0119c mo\u017ce to nie by\u0107 dos\u0142owny tekst dok\u0142adnie taki, jaki objawi\u0142a dzieciom, ale tre\u015b\u0107 tego, co ujawni\u0142a, b\u0119dzie tam. Jak kardyna\u0142 Otavani, uh, uh, napisa\u0142, uh, jedn\u0105 z tych apokryficznych tajemnic. Wiedzia\u0142, \u017ce by\u0142 jednym z kardyna\u0142\u00f3w, kt\u00f3rzy byli obecni, kiedy tajemnica zosta\u0142a ujawniona. On wiedzia\u0142, co by\u0142o w tajemnicy. Ale \u017ceby nie obej\u015b\u0107 i nie z\u0142ama\u0107 przysi\u0119gi zachowania tajemnicy, musia\u0142 ujawni\u0107 apokryficzn\u0105 wersj\u0119 tajemnicy, kt\u00f3ra faktycznie m\u00f3wi ci w istocie, czym jest tajemnica. >> Mhm. Wi\u0119c z tym zazwyczaj mamy do czynienia z tego rodzaju tajemnicami, poniewa\u017c mog\u0119 powiedzie\u0107, \u017ce to, co m\u00f3wi ta wersja tajemnicy, jest istotn\u0105 tre\u015bci\u0105, cz\u0119\u015bci\u0105 istotnej tre\u015bci trzeciej tajemnicy Fatimy, bez \u017cadnych w\u0105tpliwo\u015bci. Czy ks. Gruner j\u0105 przeczyta\u0142 i sam ci j\u0105 powiedzia\u0142, czy nast\u0119pnie oczywi\u015bcie wiedzia\u0142e\u015b, \u017ce tajemnica ujawniona przez Watykan w 2000 roku to nie by\u0142a ta wersja, kt\u00f3ra by\u0142a poprawna? eee, to by\u0142o tylko jak pierwsza cz\u0119\u015b\u0107 tajemnicy by\u0142a wizj\u0105 piek\u0142a <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">>> a druga cz\u0119\u015b\u0107 tajemnicy to eee, komentarz Matki Boskiej wyja\u015bniaj\u0105cy wizj\u0119 piek\u0142a. Trzecia tajemnica jest taka sama jak trzecia tajemnica. Masz wizj\u0119 i t\u0119 wizj\u0119 trzeciej tajemnicy, to w\u0142a\u015bnie zosta\u0142o opublikowane w eee w 2000 roku. Ale komentarz Matki Boskiej do tajemnicy, kt\u00f3ry zosta\u0142 utajniony, nie zosta\u0142 opublikowany. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">S. Kokx: >> A czy kto\u015b to czyta\u0142, Ojcze Gruner, sam albo ktokolwiek inny? <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr. Kramer: >> Nie, papie\u017c Benedykt, oczywi\u015bcie, kiedy by\u0142 kardyna\u0142em, przyzna\u0142, \u017ce przeczyta\u0142, \u017ce przeczyta\u0142 tajemnic\u0119, kt\u00f3r\u0105 zapytano wprost w wywiadzie w 1984 roku powiedzia\u0142, czy przeczyta\u0142 tajemnic\u0119, tak, przeczyta\u0142em j\u0105, wi\u0119c tak, eee, kardynale Ratzigerze w tamtym czasie przysz\u0142y papie\u017c Benedykt XVI przeczyta\u0142 tajemnic\u0119 i eee, i to bardzo interesuj\u0105ce, eee, w tym kontek\u015bcie oczywi\u015bcie, kiedy jego eee by\u0142y profesor seminarium uniwersytet [chrz\u0105ka] profesor eee, dr Ingel Dolinger eee, bardzo powa\u017cny ksi\u0105dz, nawiasem m\u00f3wi\u0105c, kt\u00f3ry eee spowiada\u0142 si\u0119 58 razy u Padre >> Pio >> to kaliber, to kaliber cz\u0142owieka tego rodzaju by\u0142a dr Inga >> Dolinger [chrz\u0105ka] >>  doktor Dr Dolinger rozmawia\u0142 z papie\u017cem Benedyktem, eee, albo kardyna\u0142em Ratzingerem, \u017ce tak powiem. To by\u0142o, gdy nie by\u0142 jeszcze papie\u017cem. Kardyna\u0142em Ratzingerem kr\u00f3tko po opublikowaniu wizji Trzeciej Tajemnicy w czerwcu 2000 roku. Teraz jest wiele rzeczy, kt\u00f3re Dolinger ujawni\u0142 na temat Trzeciej Tajemnicy. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">s. Kokx: Powiedzia\u0142 wielu osobom, , jakie s\u0105 niekt\u00f3re punkty tre\u015bci Trzeciej Tajemnicy Fatimy? <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr. Kramer:  By\u0142 dyrektorem Seminarium Niepokalanego Serca Maryi w Anapoulosie, Goi, w Brazylii. &#8230;eee, niekt\u00f3rzy m\u0142odzi diakoni i ksi\u0119\u017ca zostali poinformowani o szczeg\u00f3\u0142ach tego, co kardyna\u0142 Ratzinger wyjawi\u0142 mu na temat trzeciej tajemnicy i czy w trzeciej tajemnicy by\u0142o co\u015b wi\u0119cej ni\u017c to, co opublikowano w w czerwcu 2000 roku? C\u00f3\u017c, Dr Doinger doskonale zdawa\u0142 sobie spraw\u0119 z faktu, \u017ce kardyna\u0142 Ratzinger przekaza\u0142 mu szczeg\u00f3\u0142owe informacje na temat tego, co znajduje si\u0119 w trzeciej tajemnicy. Nie pami\u0119tam dok\u0142adnie wszystkich punkt\u00f3w, bo to ca\u0142kiem sporo, bo min\u0119\u0142o kilka dziesi\u0105tek lat, odk\u0105d odwiedzi\u0142em, odk\u0105d pojecha\u0142em do Brazylii rozmawia\u0142em z m\u0142odym ksi\u0119dzem, odk\u0105d pojecha\u0142em do Niemiec i rozmawia\u0142em z, eee, dr. Dolingerem. Wi\u0119c, eee, ja, ja, nie pami\u0119tam wszystkich szczeg\u00f3\u0142\u00f3w. Ale tyle wiem, tyle wiem wyra\u017anie pami\u0119tam z\u0142\u0105 rad\u0119 \u017ce nasza pani ostrzega\u0142a przed wprowadzaniem zmian w prawie mszy, \u017ce zdecydowanie >> czy jest co\u015b wi\u0119cej w trzeciej tajemnicy, ale moje pierwsze pytanie by\u0142o do doktora. Doktora, kiedy mi powiedzia\u0142, powiedzia\u0142, \u017ce skonfrontowa\u0142em Ratzigera prosto w twarz i wyja\u015bni\u0142, \u017ce w pewnym sensie odprawiaj\u0105 msz\u0119 i powiedzia\u0142 podczas mszy to pytanie pali\u0142o go w g\u0142owie o to, co jeszcze jest w tajemnicy, poniewa\u017c to, co zosta\u0142o ujawnione w czerwcu 2000 roku nie wspomina o tych konkretnych punktach \u017ce kardyna\u0142 Ratzinger bardzo wyra\u017anie wskazywa\u0142 punkt po punkcie na niekt\u00f3re rzeczy, kt\u00f3re s\u0105 w tej trzeciej tajemnicy i ich tam nie by\u0142o, te punkty nie by\u0142y wspomniane w tej, eee, wizji trzeciej tajemnicy w tej ksi\u0105\u017cce zwanej eee, or\u0119dziem Fatimy, kt\u00f3re rzekomo ujawni\u0142o ca\u0142\u0105 tajemnic\u0119 w czerwcu 2000 roku >> i to by\u0142 problem w umy\u015ble dr. Oligera i dlatego jego pytanie do kardyna\u0142a Ratzingera brzmia\u0142o: jak mo\u017cesz twierdzi\u0107, \u017ce ca\u0142a tajemnica zosta\u0142a ujawniona, poniewa\u017c powiedzia\u0142e\u015b mi dziewi\u0119\u0107 lat temu i eee Ratzinger by\u0142 przyparty do muru >> i dlatego i Dlatego ten, kt\u00f3ry to zrobi\u0142, powiedzia\u0142 mi, \u017ce skonfrontowa\u0142em si\u0119 z Ratzingerem prosto w twarz, wi\u0119c wtedy >> co powiedzia\u0142 [\u015bmiech] co, co zrobi\u0142 Ratzinger na to >> Ratzinger po prostu He he, by\u0142 zagubiony i po prostu wyrzuci\u0142 z siebie po niemiecku, powiedzia\u0142 co znaczy, \u017ce jest tego wi\u0119cej, &#8230; <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">S. Kokx: Znowu nie rozumiem wszystkich szczeg\u00f3\u0142\u00f3w, ale z pewno\u015bci\u0105 badania kryminalistyczne my\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce prowadz\u0105 nas do raczej definitywnego przekonania, \u017ce istnieje kryzys to\u017csamo\u015bci mi\u0119dzy t\u0105, kt\u00f3r\u0105 rzekomo siostr\u0105, a historyczn\u0105 siostr\u0105 dos Santos, poniewa\u017c jak powiedzia\u0142 bieg\u0142y kryminalistyczny, jedyn\u0105 rzecz\u0105, kt\u00f3r\u0105 te dwie osoby maj\u0105 wsp\u00f3ln\u0105, jest habit religijny. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr. Kramer: >> To trafna uwaga. Tak. Tak. My\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce to bardzo&#8230; My\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce dr Hoski wykonuje tam \u015bwietn\u0105 prac\u0119. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">S. Kokx: >> Tak. On, my\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce on rozstrzygn\u0105\u0142 t\u0119 kwesti\u0119. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr. Kramer: >> Tak. Zgadzam si\u0119. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">S. Kokx: >> On rozstrzygn\u0105\u0142 t\u0119 kwesti\u0119. No c\u00f3\u017c, w takim razie \u017cyjemy w pewnego rodzaju przemy\u015ble fa\u0142szywych wiadomo\u015bci o tym pochodz\u0105cych z Watykanu, co znowu rodzi pytanie, czy to celowe. Ale \u017ceby troch\u0119 zmieni\u0107 temat. No c\u00f3\u017c, pozw\u00f3l, \u017ce zadam ci ostatnie pytanie na ten temat, poniewa\u017c s\u0105 niekt\u00f3rzy powiedz\u0105, \u017ce Malachi Martin wspomina\u0142e\u015b o nim wcze\u015bniej, ojciec jest podw\u00f3jnym agentem, albo przynajmniej kiedy\u015b pracowa\u0142 dla z\u0142ych facet\u00f3w, je\u015bli chcesz. Jaka jest twoja og\u00f3lna ocena ojca Malachiego Martina? <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr. Kramer: Znaj\u0105c go osobi\u015bcie, mog\u0119 powiedzie\u0107 tyle, niezale\u017cnie od tego, jakie by\u0142y jego koneksje eee [chrz\u0105ka] jasne By\u0142 znany jako  post\u0119powy w czasie soboru i to naprawd\u0119  nie ma zwi\u0105zku z tym pytaniem, kt\u00f3re dotyczy tego, kiedy m\u00f3wi o tajemnicy fatimskiej Nie musia\u0142 niczego zmy\u015bla\u0107. Nie musia\u0142 opowiada\u0107 \u017cadnych bajek. Zna\u0142 tajemnic\u0119. Otrzyma\u0142 eee wiedz\u0119 o tajemnicy, kt\u00f3r\u0105 otrzyma\u0142 od kardyna\u0142a Bea, bez w\u0105tpienia tak jak ojciec Hughes pozna\u0142 tre\u015b\u0107 tajemnicy od kardyna\u0142a Stretcha. No i to by\u0142a ta jedna rzecz, kt\u00f3r\u0105 no, no, no nawet je\u015bli mo\u017cna zasadnie w\u0105tpi\u0107 w inne rzeczy, kt\u00f3re powiedzia\u0142 na inne tematy no, no w tym temacie by\u0142 wtajemniczony w tre\u015b\u0107 trzeciej tajemnicy i nie mia\u0142 powodu, \u017ceby kogokolwiek wprowadza\u0107 w b\u0142\u0105d. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">S. Kokx: >> Tak. Kiedy go pozna\u0142e\u015b? <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr. Kramer: Na pocz\u0105tku lat 90., 80. czy dawno temu . eee w latach 90. to by\u0142o tylko, zdaje si\u0119, eee, eee, r\u0119kopis mojej ksi\u0105\u017cki o mszy, eee, samob\u00f3jstwie autora w wierze i liturgii, zosta\u0142 mu przedstawiony i by\u0142, by\u0142 naprawd\u0119 bardzo pod wra\u017ceniem ksi\u0105\u017cki, w rzeczywisto\u015bci dzwoni\u0142 do mnie kilka razy dzwoni\u0142 do mnie kilka razy, eee, kiedy us\u0142ysza\u0142, \u017ce wr\u00f3ci\u0142em do Stan\u00f3w Stan\u00f3w, eee, chcia\u0142 ze mn\u0105 porozmawia\u0107 i ponownie, eee, eee, nie m\u00f3g\u0142 si\u0119 nasyci\u0107 rozmow\u0105 o tej ksi\u0105\u017cce. Wi\u0119c eee, &#8230; By\u0142em na jego grobie w Nowym Jorku, w p\u00f3\u0142nocnej cz\u0119\u015bci stanu Nowy Jork. I zawsze wydawa\u0142o mi si\u0119 dziwne, dlaczego zosta\u0142 pochowany obok, eee, jego gospodyni. Ale nie wiem. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">S. Kokx: Jest wiele teorii na temat Malachiego Martina. Prawdopodobnie zostawimy to jednak na inny program, bo to zupe\u0142nie inny temat. Mam tylko kilka ostatnich pyta\u0144 do ciebie, Ojcze. Jeszcze raz dzi\u0119kuj\u0119 za twoj\u0105 obecno\u015b\u0107. To by\u0142o wspania\u0142e, pouczaj\u0105ce do\u015bwiadczenie edukacyjne. My\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce nasi widzowie naprawd\u0119 lubi\u0105 ten program. Zna\u0142e\u015b te\u017c biskupa Williamsona. Biskup Williamson zmar\u0142 niedawno. Jakie s\u0105 twoje wspomnienia o nim i jak\u0105 rol\u0119 pe\u0142ni\u0142, czy my\u015blisz? k w tym okresie, kiedy jest tak niewielu m\u00f3wc\u00f3w prawdy, \u017ce naprawd\u0119 zosta\u0142o nas, naprawd\u0119, w tym czasie <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr. Kramer: >> eh nie zna\u0142em tak odwa\u017cnego biskupa jak biskup Williamson eh eh on jest by\u0142 wsp\u00f3\u0142czesnym Atanazym, on naprawd\u0119 by\u0142 Pami\u0119tam, \u017ce kiedy pierwszy raz go spotka\u0142em, by\u0142 nadal ojcem Williamsonem I eh zapyta\u0142 mnie o moj\u0105 opini\u0119 eh czy powiniene\u015b wiedzie\u0107, czy arcybiskup Levebre powinien wy\u015bwi\u0119ca\u0107 czy powinien konsekrowa\u0107 biskup\u00f3w? Eh to by\u0142o zanim kt\u00f3rykolwiek z czterech m\u0119\u017cczyzn, kt\u00f3rzy zostali konsekrowani eh eh zosta\u0142 mianowany biskupem. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">S. Kokx: >> Wi\u0119c zada\u0142 mi to pytanie. Co my\u015blisz? eh czy uwa\u017casz, \u017ce arcybiskup Levebre powinien konsekrowa\u0107 biskup\u00f3w?<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr. Kramer:  >> I wyja\u015bni\u0142em mu moje powody, dla kt\u00f3rych powinien konsekrowa\u0107 biskup\u00f3w. Nie mia\u0142em poj\u0119cia, \u017ce \u200b\u200brozmawiam z jednym z m\u0119\u017cczyzn, kt\u00f3rym mia\u0142 zamiar wy\u015bwi\u0119ci\u0107 biskupa. Nie mia\u0142em poj\u0119cia. Ale eee, zaufa\u0142 mojemu os\u0105dowi na tyle, \u017ce zada\u0142 mi to pytanie. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">S. Kokx: Teraz, z tego, co wiem, to by\u0142 ten biskup, kt\u00f3rego Levebre nominowa\u0142, kiedy Rzym poprosi\u0142 go o jednego biskupa. Czy mo\u017cesz to potwierdzi\u0107? Czy wiesz? Czy jeste\u015b tego \u015bwiadomy? <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr. Kramer: >> Nie, nigdy o tym nie s\u0142ysza\u0142em, ale nie zdziwi\u0142oby mnie to. >> Tak, to jest co\u015b w rodzaju, eee, mo\u017ce to jest twierdzenie cz\u0119sto powtarzane w kr\u0119gach oporu. Znam, eee, w\u015br\u00f3d innych, kt\u00f3rzy to m\u00f3wili. Wi\u0119c opieram si\u0119 na tym, co od nich s\u0142ysz\u0119. Ale eee, tak, my\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce tak, ja te\u017c bym si\u0119 nie zaskoczy\u0142. Eee, tak, biskupie Williamsonie, chyba. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">S. Kokx: Czy by\u0142e\u015b w og\u00f3le na jego pogrzebie, czy to by\u0142o gdzie\u015b tam, w Wielkiej Brytanii? Wiem. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr. Kramer: >> Poszed\u0142bym, naprawd\u0119 chcia\u0142em, ale dozna\u0142em urazu r\u0119ki i nie mog\u0142em nie\u015b\u0107 baga\u017cu ani niczego takiego, i po prostu nie da\u0142em rady. Wi\u0119c modli\u0142em si\u0119, modli\u0142em si\u0119, modli\u0142em si\u0119 za niego na mszy. I ciekawe by\u0142 po udarze i kiedy unosi\u0142 si\u0119 mi\u0119dzy \u017cyciem a \u015bmierci\u0105. Modli\u0142em si\u0119 za niego codziennie na mszy, w chwili \u015bmierci. I bez mojej wiedzy, zaraz po tym, jak odszed\u0142 do wieczno\u015bci, odprawi\u0142em msz\u0119 i w chwili, o kt\u00f3rej wspomnia\u0142em w kanonie mszy wspomnia\u0142em jego imi\u0119 >> i w tym momencie, dok\u0142adnie w tym momencie mszy, poczu\u0142em jego duchow\u0105 obecno\u015b\u0107 w kaplicy, kiedy by\u0142em na o\u0142tarzu, wspominaj\u0105c jego imi\u0119 w chwili \u015bmierci i ta my\u015bl pojawi\u0142a mi si\u0119 w g\u0142owie: \u201eLepiej sprawdz\u0119, uh, ja lepiej sprawdz\u0119 poczt\u0119, uh bo je\u015bli czuj\u0119 jego obecno\u015b\u0107 w ten spos\u00f3b, \u017ce >> uh, to mo\u017ce oznacza\u0107, \u017ce to jego dusza \u017ce jego zmar\u0142a dusza odwiedzi\u0142a mnie uh, uh, uh swoj\u0105 obecno\u015bci\u0105 co zdarzy\u0142o si\u0119 z inn\u0105 osob\u0105, uh kilka lat wcze\u015bniej. Wi\u0119c ja, ja do\u015bwiadczy\u0142em tego zjawiska wcze\u015bniej uh z dusz\u0105 zmar\u0142ego. Wi\u0119c jak tylko sko\u0144czy\u0142em msz\u0119, si\u0119gn\u0105\u0142em po smartfon i zobaczy\u0142em, \u017ce to on. W\u0142a\u015bnie odszed\u0142. >> Wi\u0119c >> tak, by\u0142 moim drogim przyjacielem i by\u0142em bardzo zasmucony jego odej\u015bciem, ale nie mog\u0142em by\u0107 na jego pogrzebie. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">S. Kokx: No c\u00f3\u017c, po jego \u015bmierci, eee, a tak\u017ce \u015bmierci twojego drogiego przyjaciela, zmar\u0142ego przyjaciela Grunera, eee, nie tak dawno temu, eee, wydaje si\u0119, \u017ce to eee posoborowe pokolenie, a nawet po \u015bmierci Benedykta eee, eee, r\u00f3wnie\u017c. Eee, \u017ce to pokolenie teraz, eee, wykona\u0142o swoj\u0105 ci\u0119\u017ck\u0105 prac\u0119, eee &#8230; No c\u00f3\u017c, jak powiedzia\u0142e\u015b, jeste\u015b teraz na p\u00f3\u0142-emeryturze, ale nadal piszesz ksi\u0105\u017cki, a tego w\u0142a\u015bnie potrzebujemy. No c\u00f3\u017c, ale jaka jest twoja og\u00f3lna ocena nast\u0119pnego pokolenia, je\u015bli mo\u017cna tak powiedzie\u0107? Mam na my\u015bli SSPX, potrzebuj\u0105 biskup\u00f3w. No c\u00f3\u017c, jest wielu biskup\u00f3w gdzie indziej w ca\u0142ej Europie itd., kt\u00f3rzy s\u0105 zwi\u0105zani z ruchem oporu. No c\u00f3\u017c, ale na tym poprzestan\u0119. Jaki jest tw\u00f3j pogl\u0105d na te sprawy? <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr. Kramer: No c\u00f3\u017c, zbli\u017camy si\u0119 teraz do samego ko\u0144ca tego okresu historii. No c\u00f3\u017c, po soborze nocyfrowy Ko\u015bci\u00f3\u0142 No c\u00f3\u017c, pami\u0119tam, \u017ce w latach 70. czyta\u0142em o czyta\u0142em artyku\u0142, nie wiem czy to broszura, czy artyku\u0142. To by\u0142o zbyt dawno temu. M\u00f3wimy o mniej wi\u0119cej 50 latach temu, kiedy to czyta\u0142em i niedawno przeczyta\u0142em to ponownie. Znalaz\u0142em to w internecie i najciekawsze jest to, \u017ce jest to s\u0142owo w s\u0142owo dok\u0142adnie to, co czyta\u0142em jakie\u015b 50 lat temu. Nie mam wi\u0119c w\u0105tpliwo\u015bci, \u017ce to by\u0142o na d\u0142ugo przed internetem, kiedy to przeczyta\u0142em po raz pierwszy. To wydanie papierowe. Pochodzi z Sanjana Roondo. My\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce publikacja wydrukowana w Sanjana Roondo przez ojc\u00f3w z Kapishian w tych czasach, w latach 70. I historia by\u0142a taka, \u017ce grupa pielgrzym\u00f3w przyby\u0142a do Sanjana Roondo i zapyta\u0142a Padre Pio: Czy do\u017cyj\u0105 triumfu Niepokalanego Serca Maryi? <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">A Padre Pio powiedzia\u0142: \u201eNie do\u017cyjesz tego triumfu. Ja nie do\u017cyj\u0119 tego triumfu\u201d. Ale potem wskaza\u0142 na kilku ma\u0142ych ch\u0142opc\u00f3w w wieku oko\u0142o 10 lat. Wszyscy maj\u0105 oko\u0142o 10 lat. Wskaza\u0142 na nich i powiedzia\u0142: \u201eAle oni zobacz\u0105 triumf\u201d. >> Teraz 1962 plus 10, to s\u0105 10-letnie dzieci, >> 10-letni ch\u0142opcy. Urodzili si\u0119 oko\u0142o 1952 roku, w roku, w kt\u00f3rym ja si\u0119 urodzi\u0142em. Wi\u0119c moje pokolenie zobaczy triumf. Wed\u0142ug Padre Pio, kt\u00f3ry jest moim zdaniem najwi\u0119kszym \u015bwi\u0119tym XX wieku. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Cz\u0142owiekiem, kt\u00f3ry otrzyma\u0142 sekret od naszej samej damy. eee, cz\u0142owiek, kt\u00f3ry jest \u015bwi\u0119tym, kt\u00f3ry nie tylko w przeciwie\u0144stwie do innych \u015bwi\u0119tych, kt\u00f3rym eee dano \u0142ask\u0119 widzenia objawie\u0144 Matki Boskiej jak powiedzia\u0142 kiedy\u015b Pio w swojej celi w Santo m\u00f3wi, \u017ce tutaj si\u0119 nie objawia, ona kroczy >> pi\u0119kna >> to jest to, to jest kaliber \u015bwi\u0119tego i jest cz\u0142owiekiem, kt\u00f3ry to wie, zna\u0142 trzeci\u0105 tajemnic\u0119 fatimsk\u0105 tak dobrze, jak ktokolwiek m\u00f3g\u0142by j\u0105 zna\u0107. Otrzyma\u0142 j\u0105 od samej Matki Boskiej i to w\u0142a\u015bnie powiedzia\u0142 o tym, kiedy nast\u0105pi triumf. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">S. Kokx: Czy masz jakie\u015b, podejrzenia to chyba najlepsze okre\u015blenie co do tego, kiedy i jak to mo\u017ce si\u0119 sta\u0107? W\u015br\u00f3d wielu moich przyjaci\u00f3\u0142 tocz\u0105 si\u0119 rozmowy. Por\u00f3wnuj\u0105 Ko\u015bci\u00f3\u0142 po Soborze Watyka\u0144skim II w 1965 roku do niewoli babilo\u0144skiej kt\u00f3ra trwa\u0142a 70 lat. 70 lat od zamkni\u0119cia Soboru Watyka\u0144skiego II to 2035. Zgadza si\u0119? Hmm, ile jeszcze potrwa ten kryzys i kiedy my\u015blisz, \u017ce go zobaczymy? <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr. Kramer: >> Nie s\u0105dz\u0119, \u017ceby trwa\u0142 tak d\u0142ugo, jak 2035. My\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce to mo\u017ce 29, 30, 31, 32, a potem moje zdanie, to moja w\u0142asna ocena, ale nie s\u0105dz\u0119, \u017ceby to si\u0119gn\u0119\u0142o poza 2030, 32 lub 33 rok, najp\u00f3\u017aniej my\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce zobaczymy triumf uh <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">S. Kokx: >> i dlaczego to jest, ojcze? <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr. Kramer: No c\u00f3\u017c, je\u015bli b\u0119d\u0119 \u017cy\u0142 w okolicach 2033 roku, b\u0119d\u0119 mia\u0142 81 lat. A Padre Pio powiedzia\u0142: \u201eLudzie w moim wieku do\u017cyj\u0105, \u017ceby pozna\u0107 tajemnic\u0119. Nikt nie \u017cyje wiecznie\u201d. Wi\u0119c [chrz\u0105kni\u0119cie] >> tak. Nawet je\u015bli b\u0119d\u0119 mia\u0142 szans\u0119 do\u017cy\u0107 wieku mojej matki, 91 lat, og\u00f3lnie m\u00f3wi\u0105c, ludzie w moim wieku nie b\u0119d\u0105 \u017cy\u0107 du\u017co d\u0142u\u017cej ni\u017c 80 lat, wczesne lata 80., wiecie, maksymalnie 85. I, uh, to b\u0119dzie na pocz\u0105tku lat 30. XXI wieku. Mo\u017cemy rozs\u0105dnie spodziewa\u0107 si\u0119, \u017ce najp\u00f3\u017aniej wtedy nast\u0105pi triumf nast\u0119pnie. Ale ludzie w moim wieku ludzie mojego pokolenia zobacz\u0105 triumf Niepokalanego Serca Maryi. To oznacza po\u015bwi\u0119cenie i nawr\u00f3cenie Rosji, pok\u00f3j na \u015bwiecie, nawr\u00f3cenie narod\u00f3w na wiar\u0119 katolick\u0105. To b\u0119dzie, uh, to nast\u0105pi w uh dla ludzi mojego pokolenia. Wi\u0119c ostatni, a potem ten, uh przeciwko temu najnowszemu pokoleniu tradycyjnych katolik\u00f3w. To b\u0119dzie ostatni z tych, kt\u00f3rzy sprzeciwiaj\u0105 si\u0119 fa\u0142szywemu ko\u015bcio\u0142owi, uh &#8230; M\u00f3wimy o tym, co wydarzy si\u0119 za kilka lat. Jest rok 2025. Mniej ni\u017c 10 lat. To wszystko wydarzy si\u0119 w mniej ni\u017c 10 lat. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">My\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce to rozs\u0105dny os\u0105d. My\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce jest ca\u0142kiem pewne, \u017ce za mniej ni\u017c 10 lat zobaczymy ten triumf. Je\u015bli to prawda, to Leo prawdopodobnie, pomijaj\u0105c jakie\u015b powa\u017cne problemy medyczne lub wypadki, nadal by\u0142by u w\u0142adzy w Watykanie. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">S. Kokx: No i nadal musimy do tego czasu dotrwa\u0107, prawda? To jakie\u015b cztery lub pi\u0119\u0107 lat. Hm, z czym, twoim zdaniem, b\u0119dziemy musieli si\u0119 zmierzy\u0107 w ci\u0105gu najbli\u017cszych czterech lub pi\u0119ciu lat? Czy to czas nadej\u015bcia Antychrysta? Na Bliskim Wschodzie toczy si\u0119 wojna. Netanjahu wydaje si\u0119, \u017ce jego misj\u0105 jest zniszczenie jak najwi\u0119kszej liczby os\u00f3b i odbudowanie wi\u0119kszego Izraela i potencjalnie Trzeciej \u015awi\u0105tyni. Jak b\u0119dziesz postrzega\u0142 nast\u0119pne pi\u0119\u0107 lat? <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr. Kramer: >> Istnieje jednoznaczna przepowiednia, \u017ce wybuchnie trzecia wojna \u015bwiatowa. Nasza pani wyjawi\u0142a b\u0142ogos\u0142awionej Ellen Ayello \u017ce Rosja dokona inwazji i przemaszeruje przez ca\u0142\u0105 Europ\u0119. Rosja b\u0119dzie walczy\u0107 z Ameryk\u0105 tajn\u0105 broni\u0105. Ona u\u017cywa s\u0142owa \u201earmia tajnej broni\u201d, co znaczy tajn\u0105 bro\u0144. Rosja ma bro\u0144, bro\u0144 tak pot\u0119\u017cn\u0105 od ameryka\u0144skiej, \u017ce Stany Zjednoczone nie maj\u0105 szans przeciwko Rosji, Chinom, Korei P\u00f3\u0142nocnej, Iranowi. Te cztery mocarstwa ca\u0142kowicie przewy\u017cszaj\u0105 militarnie sojusznik\u00f3w z NATO. Dlatego [\u015bmiech] to takie szalone, jak zachodni przyw\u00f3dcy, zw\u0142aszcza francuscy i brytyjscy, tak histerycznie promuj\u0105 agresj\u0119 przeciwko Rosji. To s\u0142absza [\u015bmiech] strona nie powinna tego robi\u0107, bo oni dostan\u0105, dostan\u0105, dostan\u0105, dostan\u0105 w ko\u015b\u0107. Dostan\u0105, dostan\u0105 w ko\u015b\u0107. I nasze powiedzia\u0142, \u017ce Rosja najedzie ca\u0142\u0105 Europ\u0119. I s\u0142ysz\u0119 ludzi, m\u00f3wi\u0105cych: no c\u00f3\u017c, oni my\u015bl\u0105, \u017ce Ukraina wygrywa wojn\u0119. To nonsens. Rosja nie b\u0119dzie walczy\u0107 dalej, z, Zachodem w tej, ukrai\u0144skiej wojnie na zawsze. Por\u00f3wna\u0142bym to do tego, co genera\u0142 MacArthur chcia\u0142 zrobi\u0107 podczas wojny korea\u0144skiej. On wiedzia\u0142, \u017ce to absurdalny pomys\u0142, by walczy\u0107 z komunistycznym re\u017cimem chin w Korei P\u00f3\u0142nocnej. Ograniczaj\u0105c walk\u0119 do tego geograficznego obszaru ograniczonego do Korei P\u00f3\u0142nocnej, kt\u00f3r\u0105 chcia\u0142 [chrz\u0105ka] przenie\u015b\u0107 wojn\u0119 do Chin i Stan\u00f3w Zjednoczonych w tym czasie mogli z \u0142atwo\u015bci\u0105 pokona\u0107 komunistyczne Chiny bardzo \u0142atwo mog\u0142yby pokona\u0107 komunistyczne [chrz\u0105ka] Chiny uh uh ludzie powiedzieliby, \u017ce to by ryzykowali wojn\u0119 \u015bwiatow\u0105, w kt\u00f3r\u0105 Rosja zainterweniowa\u0142aby, Rosja nigdy by nie interweniowa\u0142a wiemy to ju\u017c z powodu komunikacji mi\u0119dzy Maongiem a uh uh uh ja, to by\u0142 Stalin, to by\u0142 wci\u0105\u017c Stalin w tym czasie. Stalin, uh Mao w\u0142a\u015bciwie poprosi\u0142 o pomoc sowieck\u0105 a odpowied\u017a Stalina brzmia\u0142a: mam pe\u0142ne r\u0119ce roboty, mam pe\u0142ne r\u0119ce roboty teraz ca\u0142kowicie zaj\u0119te z Europ\u0105 Wschodni\u0105 jestem w stanie ci pom\u00f3c. >> Jeste\u015b zdany na siebie. Wi\u0119c w zasadzie powiedzia\u0142 komunistycznym Chi\u0144czykom, \u017ce je\u015bli chodzi o jak\u0105kolwiek wojn\u0119 z zachodnimi sojusznikami, Mao jest zdany na siebie. Nie otrzyma \u017cadnej pomocy od Zwi\u0105zku Radzieckiego. >> [chrz\u0105ka] teraz MacArthur chcia\u0142 przenie\u015b\u0107 wojn\u0119 do Chin i definitywnie pokona\u0107 komunist\u00f3w i to by pomy\u015blnie zako\u0144czy\u0142o wojn\u0119 w tym kraju. Ale zamiast tego, Truman odsun\u0105\u0142 MacArthura i wojna toczy\u0142a si\u0119 tylko na P\u00f3\u0142wyspie Korea\u0144skim i wiemy, \u017ce si\u0119 sko\u0144czy\u0142a. Sko\u0144czy\u0142a si\u0119 w zasadzie impasem, co jest w zasadzie przegran\u0105 wojny. [chrz\u0105ka] >> Ale sko\u0144czy\u0142a si\u0119 impasem i Putin nie pope\u0142ni takiego b\u0142\u0119du. Ten cz\u0142owiek jest\u2026 ten cz\u0142owiek ma\u2026 wojskowy umys\u0142. Ludzie my\u015bl\u0105, \u017ce jest\u2026 cz\u0142owiekiem z KGB. C\u00f3\u017c, jego g\u0142\u00f3wn\u0105 karier\u0105 by\u0142 wywiad wojskowy. Zawsze by\u0142\u2026 przede wszystkim agentem GRU. I to w\u0142a\u015bnie jako oficer GRU zosta\u0142 szefem KGB. Ale zawsze by\u0142\u2026 GRU. To radziecki wywiad wojskowy, zanim zosta\u0142 rosyjskim wywiadem wojskowym. Ale zawsze by\u0142\u2026 wywiadem wojskowym. Rozumie wystarczaj\u0105co du\u017co o wojnie, \u017ce spos\u00f3b, w jaki zach\u00f3d agresywnie\u2026 promuje prowadzenie tej wojny przeciwko Rosji, wykorzystuj\u0105c Ukrain\u0119 jako poligon do\u015bwiadczalny do atak\u00f3w na Rosj\u0119. Mhm. >> Putin nie jest takim imbecylem, \u017ceby ograniczy\u0107 sw\u00f3j odwet do walki na terytorium Ukrainy. On zrobi dok\u0142adnie to, co MacArthur chcia\u0142 zrobi\u0107. I, uh, w przeciwie\u0144stwie do MacArthura, kt\u00f3ry musia\u0142 martwi\u0107 si\u0119 o prezydenta, kt\u00f3ry m\u00f3g\u0142by go zwolni\u0107, eh, eh, Putin jest prezydentem. Nie ma wi\u0119c prezydenta, kt\u00f3ry m\u00f3g\u0142by zwolni\u0107 prezydenta Putina. Wi\u0119c je\u015bli Putin jako g\u0142\u00f3wnodowodz\u0105cy zdecyduje, \u017ce zamierza eh odpowiedzie\u0107 na Zach\u00f3d eh, na agresj\u0119, eh, kt\u00f3r\u0105 oni obali rz\u0105d ukrai\u0144ski w 2014 roku, aby zainstalowa\u0107 prozachodni pronatowski rz\u0105d, aby by\u0107 agresywnym przeciwko Rosji i realizowa\u0107 polityk\u0119 projektu nowego ameryka\u0144skiego wieku, kt\u00f3ry si\u0119ga a\u017c do administracji George&#8217;a W. Busha, kt\u00f3ra chcia\u0142a eh >> podzieli\u0107 Rosj\u0119 i eh zasadniczo podzieli\u0107 Rosj\u0119 i rozbi\u0107 j\u0105 na ma\u0142e kraje. > Ca\u0142kowicie zniszczy\u0107 Rosj\u0119. > Tak. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">S. Kokx: >> No i Putin doskonale rozumie, \u017ce przetrwanie Rosji jako narodu narodu zale\u017cy od tego, czy nie pozwolimy zachodnim sojusznikom pokona\u0107 Rosji poniewa\u017c to oznacza koniec Rosji. Wi\u0119c co Putin zamierza zrobi\u0107, co Putin zamierza zrobi\u0107, gdy Zach\u00f3d stanie si\u0119 bardziej agresywny wobec Rosji, wykorzystuj\u0105c Ukrain\u0119 jako miejsce do ataku na Rosj\u0119, aby rozpocz\u0105\u0107 wojn\u0119 przeciwko Rosji? Putin zareaguje eskalacj\u0105 wojny rozszerzaj\u0105c j\u0105 na ca\u0142\u0105 Europ\u0119. Najedzie ca\u0142\u0105 Europ\u0119. Zdob\u0119dzie ca\u0142\u0105 Europ\u0119. Zdob\u0119dzie j\u0105 bardzo szybko. To b\u0119dzie b\u0142yskawiczna ofensywa. Czy to prawda, \u017ce \u200b\u200bojciec Gruner kiedykolwiek odwiedzi\u0142 Rosj\u0119? I my\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce Franciszek rozmawia\u0142 te\u017c z samym Putinem i Putin zapyta\u0142 o Matk\u0119 Bosk\u0105 Fatimsk\u0105 a Franciszek uchyli\u0142 si\u0119 od tematu i powiedzia\u0142, \u017ce o tym nie rozmawiamy. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr. Kramer: >> Tak. Tak. My\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce teraz skupiam si\u0119 na szczeg\u00f3\u0142ach, ale Franciszek nie chcia\u0142, Franciszek nie by\u0142 zainteresowany tego rodzaju dyskusj\u0105. Ale dzi\u0119ki temu mog\u0119 powiedzie\u0107, \u017ce proroctwo jest bardzo jasne Rosja, nast\u0105pi atak Rosja najedzie Europ\u0119, \u015awi\u0119ty Luigi Orion m\u00f3wi\u0142 o tym, jak ta wojna wp\u0142ynie na Stany Zjednoczone. Wiesz, Matka Boska powiedzia\u0142a b\u0142ogos\u0142awionej Elenie o inwazji na Europ\u0119 i Rosja najedzie Europ\u0119. Powiedzia\u0142a: \u201eRosja zaatakuje, Rosja b\u0119dzie walczy\u0107 z Ameryk\u0105 tajn\u0105 broni\u0105\u201d. Ale to \u015bw. Ludwik Orion przekaza\u0142 nam ten bardzo wa\u017cny szczeg\u00f3\u0142 w swojej przepowiedni. Powiedzia\u0142, \u017ce miliony Amerykan\u00f3w z powodu spustoszenia i zniszczenia Ameryce P\u00f3\u0142nocnej miliony uciekn\u0105 do Ameryki Po\u0142udniowej, wielu do Argentyny i przenios\u0105 si\u0119 w zasadzie wyemigruj\u0105 do Argentyny, milionami poniewa\u017c Stany Zjednoczone zostan\u0105 tak zdewastowane przez straszliw\u0105 wojn\u0119. To b\u0119dzie, to b\u0119dzie bardzo, bardzo niszczycielska wojna. Zniszczy Ameryk\u0119 P\u00f3\u0142nocn\u0105.<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">S. Kokx:  >> Tak, my\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce to naprawd\u0119 ciekawe, bo pami\u0119tam, jak biskup Williamson wyg\u0142osi\u0142 kilka s\u0142\u00f3w pochwa\u0142y pod adresem Putina za walk\u0105, no wiesz, z przebudzeniem i obron\u0105 pewnego rodzaju chrze\u015bcija\u0144skiego pogl\u0105du na rodzin\u0119 itd. I chyba wyg\u0142osi\u0142 kazanie w Polsce, kiedy wy\u015bwi\u0119ci\u0142 biskupa Stop Nikki, kt\u00f3ry by\u0142 jednym z biskup\u00f3w ruchu oporu i m\u00f3wi\u0142: \u201eSp\u00f3jrzcie, jak ci \u017ali s\u0105 na Zachodzie\u201d. To niekoniecznie Putin. Wi\u0119c nie wiem, czy on\u2026 dzieli\u0142 si\u0119 tym, co m\u00f3wisz o Rosji, kt\u00f3ra wkroczy\u0142a do Europy i dokona\u0142a inwazji, poniewa\u017c wydaje si\u0119, \u017ce Zach\u00f3d pr\u00f3buje sprowokowa\u0107 to prawie i by\u0107 mo\u017ce\u2026 m\u00f3wisz, \u017ce <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr. Kramer: >> Zach\u00f3d pr\u00f3buje sprowokowa\u0107 Rosj\u0119, ale oni w swoim szale\u0144stwie nie wiedz\u0105, nie rozumiej\u0105, \u017ce\u2026 prowokuj\u0105 giganta, kt\u00f3ry zamierza ich wymordowa\u0107. Ja\u2026 ja eee\u2026 nie widzia\u0142em\u2026 widzia\u0142em\u2026 Putina\u2026 zachowywa\u0142 pow\u015bci\u0105gliwo\u015b\u0107 przez ostatnie wiele lat. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">S. Kokx: >> Zgadza si\u0119. >> Trudno mi powiedzie\u0107, czy\u2026 zgadzam si\u0119 z tym wszystkim. Ja\u2026 znowu\u2026 nie czyta\u0142em\u2026 proroctw, o kt\u00f3rych m\u00f3wisz, ale trudno mi uwierzy\u0107, \u017ce on chce i\u015b\u0107 i to wszystko zrobi\u0107. My\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce on rzeczywi\u015bcie chce wielobiegunowo\u015bci i Europy dla Europy, Rosji dla Rosji, itd. Ale mog\u0119 si\u0119 myli\u0107. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr. Kramer: >> Tak. Tak, on tego w\u0142a\u015bnie chcia\u0142. Ale rzecz w tym, \u017ce on b\u0119dzie zmuszony. Je\u015bli zachodnia propaganda jest bezsensowna, oni por\u00f3wnuj\u0105 Putina do Hitlera, jakby by\u0142 ekspansjonist\u0105. On jest, eee, on jest psychopat\u0105, kt\u00f3ry chce podbi\u0107 \u015bwiat. To jest to [\u015bmiech], to po prostu to jest po prostu bezczelna propaganda. To bzdura. Gdyby Putin chcia\u0142 zdoby\u0107 Europ\u0119 i walczy\u0107 z Ameryk\u0105 P\u00f3\u0142nocn\u0105, m\u00f3g\u0142by ju\u017c to zrobi\u0107 i m\u00f3g\u0142by pokona\u0107, m\u00f3g\u0142by wygra\u0107 wojn\u0119 ju\u017c. M\u00f3g\u0142 to zrobi\u0107. Gdyby chcia\u0142, ju\u017c by to zrobi\u0142. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">s. Kokx: >> Putin chcia\u0142, uh, utrzyma\u0107 pok\u00f3j i porz\u0105dek na \u015bwiecie. Ale Zach\u00f3d reaguje wrogo\u015bci\u0105 i nie tylko wrogo\u015bci\u0105, ale tak\u017ce przest\u0119pczymi zamiarami rozbicia Rosji, jej podzia\u0142u i utworzenia nowej grupy kraj\u00f3w z by\u0142ej Federacji Rosyjskiej. To w\u0142a\u015bnie mieli na my\u015bli. Putin doskonale wie, \u017ce to jest zapisane w ich dokumentach. To jest w oficjalnych dokumentach, kt\u00f3re zosta\u0142y opublikowane ponad 20 lat temu, \u017ce taki by\u0142 zamiar, uh, uh, ameryka\u0144ska polityka zagraniczna by\u0142a zmierzaj\u0105ca w tym kierunku, w kierunku doprowadzenia do tego. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr. Kramer: >> Putin wie, \u017ce chc\u0105 zniszczy\u0107 Rosj\u0119, chc\u0105 j\u0105 podbi\u0107 i przej\u0105\u0107. >> I uh, Putin wie, \u017ce pomimo chocia\u017c chc\u0105 zachowa\u0107 pok\u00f3j, nie chc\u0105 wojny. By\u0142 bardzo cierpliwy. By\u0142 niesamowicie cierpliwy. Mhm. >> Ale, kiedy przyjdzie co do czego, b\u0119dzie si\u0119 broni\u0142 i to z ca\u0142\u0105 moc\u0105. A kiedy to zrobi, z powodu samej natury tego rodzaju wojny, jaka b\u0119dzie, to b\u0119dzie to wojna bardzo niszczycielska. By\u0142a pewna \u015bwi\u0119ta zakonnica, kt\u00f3ra i jasnowidz, matka, nie pami\u0119tam jej, nie mog\u0119 z Malestry, chyba z miasta pochodzi\u0142a, pochodzi\u0142a z matki Malestry, nie pami\u0119tam jej nie mog\u0119 z Malestry, chyba z tego miasta pochodzi\u0142a, pochodzi\u0142a z Matki Malestry, niekt\u00f3re z jej proroctw spe\u0142ni\u0142y si\u0119 bardzo, niezwykle niezwykle i jedna z rzeczy, kt\u00f3re powiedzia\u0142a, to \u017ce rosyjska okupacja Europy. M\u00f3wi\u0142a chyba konkretnie o Francji. Powiedzia\u0142a, \u017ce b\u0119dzie to brutalna okupacja, bardzo brutalna okupacja. Ale powiedzia\u0142a, \u017ce \u200b\u200bpotrwa mniej ni\u017c rok. Wi\u0119c to w\u0142a\u015bnie mamy na my\u015bli. Zniszczenie Ameryki P\u00f3\u0142nocnej, unicestwienie Kanady. Padre Pio przemawia\u0142 kiedy\u015b. Powiedzia\u0142, \u017ce p\u00f3\u0142nocnoameryka\u0144ski kraj zostanie ca\u0142kowicie unicestwiony. Nie powiedzia\u0142 tego w tym konkretnym przypadku. Nie powiedzia\u0142 kt\u00f3rego, ale wiemy, \u017ce wiemy z Papie\u017ca Piusa I, cytowanego przez XII przez tych, kt\u00f3rzy byli obecni w Watykanie kiedy otwiera\u0142 Trzeci\u0105 Tajemnic\u0119 Fatimsk\u0105, mia\u0142 na my\u015bli Kanad\u0119 <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">S. Kokx: >> jak\u0105 rol\u0119, twoim zdaniem, odgrywa Izrael w tym wszystkim, najwyra\u017aniej szanta\u017cuj\u0105 ca\u0142y \u015bwiat zachodni ca\u0142ym swoim wywiadem i pod\u017cegaj\u0105 do konfliktu na Bliskim Wschodzie nadal wydaje si\u0119, \u017ce sojusz USA z Izraelem naprawd\u0119 przewodzi w tym. I, um, na szcz\u0119\u015bcie, jednak w USA jest wielu m\u0142odych ludzi politycznie. Jest wielu ludzi, kt\u00f3rzy krytykuj\u0105 lobbing syjonistyczny i potencjalnie dojdzie do roz\u0142amu w pewnym momencie w przysz\u0142o\u015bci. Ale na razie wydaje si\u0119, \u017ce Izrael ma mocny wp\u0142yw na USA i Zach\u00f3d. Czy widzisz, \u017ce odgrywaj\u0105 znacz\u0105c\u0105 rol\u0119 w prowokowaniu<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr. Kramer: Wszystko to? Jak powiedzia\u0142 Ojciec Fahi, hm, niekt\u00f3rzy m\u00f3wi\u0105, \u017ce Ojciec Fehee powiedzia\u0142, wiesz, lata temu, \u017ce zorganizowany naturalizm i si\u0142y Antychrysta doprowadz\u0105 do sytuacji potencjalnie takiej, jak\u0105 obserwujemy teraz. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">S. Kokx: Tak. C\u00f3\u017c, my\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce podsumowa\u0142e\u015b to do\u015b\u0107 trafnie. Rola Izraela w tym, w &#8230; Tak, wydaje mi si\u0119 logiczne, \u017ce ci, kt\u00f3rzy odrzucili Chrystusa, mieliby szczeg\u00f3ln\u0105 rol\u0119 do odegrania w tym momencie, kiedy wydaje si\u0119, \u017ce Antychryst jest, eee albo, jak powiedzia\u0142 kiedy\u015b \u015bw. Pius X, wiecie, wkr\u00f3tce, albo przynajmniej wype\u0142nia jego rozkazy. Wi\u0119c na pewno co radzisz ludziom, ojcze? Ostatnie pytanie do ciebie dzisiaj ponownie, dzi\u0119kuj\u0119 za obecno\u015b\u0107. Eee, w tych nadchodz\u0105cych latach, czy chodzi o odmawianie pierwszego pi\u0105tku na sobotnie nabo\u017ce\u0144stwa? eee wiesz, codziennie odmawia\u0107 r\u00f3\u017caniec. Biskup Williamson bardzo lubi\u0142 odmawia\u0107 15 dziesi\u0105tek dziennie. Jaka jest twoja duchowa rada? <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr. Kramer: > 15 dziesi\u0105tek r\u00f3\u017ca\u0144ca, eee, na na przyk\u0142ad w soboty. I my\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce to by\u0142 Ojca Pio. Co powiedzia\u0142?  &#8222;M\u00f3dl si\u0119 miej nadziej\u0119 i nie martw si\u0119. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">S. Kokx: >> Brzmi dobrze. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr. Kramer: >> Modlitwa to najpot\u0119\u017cniejsza bro\u0144. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">S. Kokx: >> Amen. C\u00f3\u017c, gdyby\u015b m\u00f3g\u0142 odprawi\u0107 msz\u0119 dla nas i naszych widz\u00f3w, by\u0142oby to na pewno bardzo docenione. Eee, wszyscy tutaj, kt\u00f3rzy ogl\u0105daj\u0105 ten program, kochaj\u0105 ci\u0119 i eee, prosz\u0119, kontynuuj wspania\u0142\u0105 prac\u0119 i czekamy na twoj\u0105 kolejn\u0105 ksi\u0105\u017ck\u0119. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fr. Kramer: >> Zdecydowanie. Eee, zachowam twoj\u0105 prac\u0119 w moich intencjach mszalnych i eee, mo\u017cesz na to liczy\u0107. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">S. Kokx: Bardzo dzi\u0119kuj\u0119, ksi\u0119\u017ce, \u017ce jeste\u015b tu znowu. Ojcze Paulu Kramerze, wszyscy, kupcie jego ksi\u0105\u017cki na Amazonie. Dodam linki do notatek do programu. Dzi\u0119kuj\u0119 wszystkim za ogl\u0105danie i niech B\u00f3g b\u0142ogos\u0142awi.<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-center\">\u017ar\u00f3d\u0142o Film z dnia 08.11.2025 Kana\u0142 na youtubie <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@Stephen_Kokx\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@Stephen_Kokx<\/a><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-center\">w\u0142\u0105cz napisy i pos\u0142uchaj <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/kokxnews.substack.com\">https:\/\/kokxnews.substack.com<\/a><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<div class='embed-container'><iframe title=\"Fr. Kramer on the Third Secret of Fatima, Russia, and Global Politics: Part 2\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/gWduh6kBcig?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">How much longer will this crisis go on<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and when do you think we will see that?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I don&#8217;t think it will last as long as<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<ol start=\"2035\" class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>This is a matter of opinion, my<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">own judgment, but I don&#8217;t I don&#8217;t see it<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">going beyond 20 30 32 or 33 at the very<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">latest.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>[music]<\/p>\n\n\n<p>[music]<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hello and welcome to Church and State<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">with Stephen Cox. This is a show<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">dedicated to all things Catholicism. all<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">things politics and everything in<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">between. Well, today we have a very<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">special guest who you have probably<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">heard of before, Father Paul Kramer. He<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">is a widely known traditional Catholic<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">priest who has written many books and<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">articles on an array of topics including<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Our Lady of Fatima, prophecy, and the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">question of Benedict&#8217;s so-called<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">resignation as well as the Burggalio<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">years. Father Kramer was also longtime<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">friends with the late Father Nicholas<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Gruner, the founder of the Fatimus<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Center. So, as you can imagine, we&#8217;ll<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">have a lot to talk about today. I want<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">to now welcome to the show, Father Paul<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kramer. Thank you, Father, for being<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">here.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Oh, it&#8217;s great to be here.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I think a lot of people are interested<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">in what you&#8217;re up to these days, if<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">you&#8217;re able to share with us where<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">you&#8217;re at, what you&#8217;re doing with your<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">ministry, because they&#8217;ve read your<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">books over the past many years, that<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">you&#8217;ve been really a public figure. I<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">myself appreciated your book, The<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mystery of Iniquity. I&#8217;ll bring that up<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">in just a second, but can you get us up<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">to speed as to where you&#8217;re at and what<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">you&#8217;re doing?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Well, uh, as is generally the case,<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">after you reach a certain age, uh, uh,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">priests generally retire at age 70. So,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh, I&#8217;m I&#8217;m in that, uh, category now.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So, I&#8217;m retired, but I I don&#8217;t retire,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">you know, you don&#8217;t retire from being a<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">priest. Uh, I&#8217;ve all my life I I just<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I&#8217;ve already made up my mind that as<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">long as I&#8217;m sufficiently able-bodied, I<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">continue my ministry in the priesthood<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh no matter how no matter what my age<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">will be.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So, so I&#8217;m officially retired, but uh<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I&#8217;m still carrying on my pip ministry in<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">every way that I can.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah. And I see it says you&#8217;re the<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">president of Servants of Jesus and Mary.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Can you explain that title for us?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh that uh is an organization that uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">merged with uh the uh Canadian uh Fatima<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Apostlate of Father Nicholas Gruner. Uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I I believe it was 1988<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">when the when the official uh uh merger<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">took place. the they became two<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">affiliated corporations, one apostlate,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">one one organization<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh two uh two corporations, one Canadian<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and one American.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And uh so we were the service of Jesus<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and Mary was registered in this in New<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">York State uh as the Fatima Center uh uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">as early as 1994.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mhm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So we were together jointly operating<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">this uh uh aposttoate servants of Jesus<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and Mary and the uh national pilgrim<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">virgin of Canada. We were together one<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Fatima apostulate up until shortly after<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the death of uh [clears throat] uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">father father Nicholas Kuner God rest<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">his soul.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And uh so that&#8217;s the the history of our<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">organization. uh [clears throat]<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">we were we were we were known uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">together as the Fatima Center for all<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">those those decades. shortly after 1988<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh he became president he was a board<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">member he was a he was a board of<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">directors member since 1988 president<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">shortly shortly thereafter uh and and<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that was together with the with the with<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the Canadian apostate together they were<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the Fatima center<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and father Guruda was the president and<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I am his successor as president of the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">of his American Fatima apostlate that&#8217;s<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Jesus and Mary<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">great and here&#8217;s a picture of of father<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Gunnar himself is your assess of where<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">things are at in the church today. Are<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">we living in the time that blessed<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Katherine Emer predicted and uh again<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">where where is the church? Is it just<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">where we have to find our our all we<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">have is the the priest that we cling to.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Is that what we kind of have to do now?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There is a unonymity of prophecy on this<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">point.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It&#8217;s not just blessed an Catherine Emer<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh this is in the third secret of Fatima<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">by the way. Uh I I I recall uh hearing<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that uh was sometime in the 1950s<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh and this explains why you had the the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">multiple envelopes uh in one of them in<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">envelope inside another envelope and one<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">is taped shut. Mhm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Uh that was a mystery until I found I<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">dis I I doing my research I found out<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that uh Pope Pius I 12th<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">had opened the third secret of Fatima<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that was published in a newspaper in<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Canada. Pope Pas I 12th opened the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yes,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that was published that fact. Yes,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that act was published that he opened<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the secret and he read it<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and the first words that came out of his<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">mouth was<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Canada who are Canada.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Huh?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And uh so he did open the secret. He did<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">read the secret. Now<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">what does that mean do you think?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Well that that&#8217;s another question<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">because [laughter]<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">what is important? We&#8217;re talking about<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the church now.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mhm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And uh Padre Peio uh can saint had had<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh confided to father Gabriel Amort that<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">our our lady had revealed the third<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">secret to him.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mhm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And he said, &#8222;Gabriel, you understand<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that uh Satan has entered the very bosom<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">of the church and soon there will be a<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">counterfeit church.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Now that&#8217;s the third secret of Fatima.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Pipio tells us that and uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">when Pasult opened the secret he didn&#8217;t<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">it wasn&#8217;t publicized there was not a a<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">press release like at the time of John<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the 23rd there was a press release that<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">it was it was opened it was read but<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">then it was resalled and it&#8217;s not going<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">to be it&#8217;s not going to be<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">what year did that that happen was that<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">in the late 50s early early pontificate<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">or when did he read that<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">John<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">23rd pas<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I&#8217;m not sure exactly of the<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I heard somebody say 1957, but then the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the story the story in a Canadian<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">newspaper was before then. So it could<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">be a lapse of memory of the person who<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">related the story. But one thing is<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">certain the priest who accompanied<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">father uh Cardinal uh Samuel Stretch to<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Rome uh when was a priest by the name of<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">father Lawrence Emtt Hughes. He uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">accompanied Cardinal Stretch to Rome<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">when Pius I 12th opened the secret and<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">read it<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and uh he couldn&#8217;t reveal the whole<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">secret just like father Maliki Martin<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">couldn&#8217;t reveal the whole secret but uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">there was something so important there<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that he that he warned a group of people<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">at uh he was with a group of his<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">extended uh family uh in Los Angeles. I<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">think that was 1957 when he said this<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and he said that in the third secret uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">he fortells that there&#8217;s going to be a a<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">liturggical movement liturggical reform<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh he says have nothing to do with that<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">because by stages this is going to lead<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">up to uh the uh suppression to to the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the abolition of the holy mass itself<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that the holy mass itself the holy<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">sacrifice of the mass will eventually<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">suppressed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That&#8217;s what the third secret says or<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">implies essentially.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That&#8217;s what it said. Uh that&#8217;s what it<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">said. This is what Cardinal Streitz uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">confined to his assistant at the time,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">this father Hughes uh who revealed that<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">aspect of the secret<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and Padre Pio said uh that there would<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">be this uh this counterfeit church uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that that Satan would be at the head of<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">a counterfeit church.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mhm. Now we go back to 1861 long before<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Vataba<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh Cardinal Henry Edward Manning spoke<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">on this topic.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He said that uh Rome<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh this was before Vatican City existed<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">as an entity. So people didn&#8217;t refer to<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the Vatican before uh uh before before<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the Vatican before the the Lateran uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">treaty set up the Vatican as the Vatican<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">city state. Uh the word the Vatican was<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">more an expression. It wasn&#8217;t that it<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">wasn&#8217;t so such an institution as the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Vatican meaning the church hierarchy the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the papal curia that was used they<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">usually refer to that as Rome.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mhm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ecclesiastical Rome.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mhm. So uh so back in 1861, Cardinal<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Manning didn&#8217;t speak of the Vatican.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He spoke of Rome. But the clear context<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">he&#8217;s talking about ecclesiastical Rome,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the the Roman cury of the hierarchy. Uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">he says the true vicor of Christ will be<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">driven out of Rome. That Rome will<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">revert. In other words, the Vatican the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Vatican will embrace paganism.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah. The church<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the of Babylon essentially. Yeah.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Isn&#8217;t that what it&#8217;s become?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That&#8217;s right. Yeah,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the true church will<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">he says this is the he says that will<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">become invisible. It will appear as<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">though that the church had been swept<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">from the face of the earth.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mhm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And he says and to make it clear he said<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">this is not his own opinion. He said<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">this is taught in unison by the ancient<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">fathers and he quotes several of the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">more of the more the more salient<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">passages of the ancient fathers on this<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">point<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">because you have some uh some radical<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">fundamentalists like uh John Salsza uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">who will who will who will insist that<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the church is going to remain is<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">evidently visible through throughout all<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">times even through this uh great<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">exceptional time of of persecution when<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the ancient fathers were in unison<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">saying that it will appear as though the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">church had disappeared from the face of<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the earth.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah, I have a few questions about the<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the third secret still though. Um that&#8217;s<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">so curious. I never heard pest the 12th<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">having been quoted as saying poor<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Canada. I&#8217;m really intrigued by that. I<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">don&#8217;t know if there&#8217;s anything more you<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">can share about that. But um I guess my<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">other question is why didn&#8217;t he<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">consecrate Russia if he read the secret<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and and he foresaw what was said in it?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And then why if if if it is now as<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">you&#8217;re saying about liturgy and<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">revolution in the liturgy um I mean he<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">if this event happened in 57 that&#8217;s one<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">year before his his own death when he<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">had poor health but two years after the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">55 reforms which should have um alerted<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">him to say hey this Annabel Bonini guy<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">is not any good. So I know there&#8217;s a<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">couple questions there but um what are<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">your thoughts on any of those? Well,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">regarding the consecration of Russia, uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">he was misled. Uh the the one who was<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">translating and explaining uh the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">request of our lady of Fatima regarding<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the consecration of Russia uh happened<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">to be a Jesuit<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and he didn&#8217;t think it was opportune.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Jesuit didn&#8217;t think it was<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">opportune.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Be too explicit about uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the consecration namely of Russia by the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">bishops together with the pope. Mhm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He thought that wouldn&#8217;t be very<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">opportune. Uh as if well I mean he<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">didn&#8217;t believe in the power of God. This<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Jesuit because<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh all those people who would say well<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">if you consecrate<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Russia that Russia is going to<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">retaliate. This is when Russia was<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">communist. Russia was Soviet. and<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[clears throat] and and and the uh and<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the standard reply was that well if the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">pope and the bishops were to solely<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">consecrate Russia or communist Russia is<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">going to retaliate terribly uh uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">against the church. Now this is simply<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">points proves that these people don&#8217;t<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">didn&#8217;t believe in our lady of Fatima.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">They didn&#8217;t they didn&#8217;t believe her<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">message even though this message was<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">authenticated with the the most<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">stupendous uh uh miracle after after<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">biblical times the great miracle of the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">sun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Did did pas the 12th see that by the way<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">from his balcony? Isn&#8217;t that the report?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He saw the miracle himself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He saw something like it. Whether it was<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the exact same miracle or not, that I<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">don&#8217;t know cuz I don&#8217;t I don&#8217;t know what<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">he exact exactly what he saw, but he saw<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">something to that effect.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mhm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And there have been similar<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">manifestations<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh of that same nature. Uh I remember<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">back in April of 1980 when uh uh Bruno<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Konakola of uh of Rome, the seer of the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">of the famous apparition now uh uh just<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">across from the Tontan uh monastery<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">where he converted from his uh from his<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">heresy and became uh a devout Catholic.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh uh when there was a mass celebrated<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">at that sanctuary um in April of it was<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">a Sunday uh if I can remember the date.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I think it was the 13th of April I think<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I think it was the 13th of April a<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Sunday 1980 that uh Cornacola was<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">present at that at that mass. It was uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">in it was at at the sanctuary at the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">place that sited the apparition and<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">there was there was a there was a<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">miracle like the miracle of the son of<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Fatima that took place there on that<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">day.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mhm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Okay. So, uh, again, I wasn&#8217;t at Fatima,<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">so I I I don&#8217;t know. I don&#8217;t I I can&#8217;t<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">compare one miracle with the other, but<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the the one in the one in Fatima was<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">especially especially noteworthy because<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the the mud was ankle deep and uh uh the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">land dried up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mhm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And the people&#8217;s clothes, people were<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">just saturated with water and uh uh the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the rain had the rain was pouring rain<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">on on everyone there. It was miserable.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And within just a few minutes uh their<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">clothes were dry and clean. The ground<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the ground there was no more mud. It was<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">dry earth again.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And this is this is the caliber of a<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">miracle that took place. And our lady<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">said in July she was going to work a<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">miracle so that everyone would believe.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But obviously too many mitered heads in<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Rome uh didn&#8217;t believe and and too many<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">theologians didn&#8217;t believe because they<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">thought that the that&#8217;s an empty promise<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that our lady made that Russia will<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">convert when this when this consecration<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">is performed the solemn and public<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">consecration of Russia to the immaculate<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">heart of Mary done by the pope together<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">with all the bishops of the world<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">heaven God himself promises peace<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n<p>[clears throat]<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the conversion of Russia and world peace<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">but they don&#8217;t believe that promise<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">because they say they were saying and<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">some still say that uh this will destroy<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">echical this will destroy ecumenical<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">relations with the orthodox with the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Russian Orthodox uh it will stir up<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">hostility of Russia against the church.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">They&#8217;re basically saying that that our<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">lady of Fatima cannot be trusted<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">or or they know the result that would<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">happen and they don&#8217;t want it because<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">they&#8217;re the church was infiltrated and<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">they want war and they want death and<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">they want to do the work of the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">antichrist essentially.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">They want unity and diversity. They want<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">a cenodal church uh in intercom<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">communion, interfaith communion with all<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the other churches of the world. That&#8217;s<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">what they want. The last thing on earth<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that they want is for Russia to convert<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">to the Catholic faith and for Russia uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh like St. Paul the apostle of the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">nations that that Russia will be the the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the the beacon of faith and light to<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">convert the nations of the world.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Convert the nations of the world. Uh<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">they don&#8217;t want that. These these<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">masonic cardinals and bishops, that&#8217;s<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the last thing in the world that they<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">want. They don&#8217;t want they don&#8217;t want<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the apostolic tradition. They don&#8217;t want<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that old faith.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">They want you wrote about this in your<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">book, The Devil&#8217;s Final Battle, which I<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">read many years ago. This came out in<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">2002.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And you discuss the third secret. You<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">talk about global events, even 9\/11 at<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that time. And I believe in this book,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Father, this is where I actually heard<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">this particular version of the third<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">secret. Um, this is from Novas<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Erdogatch. This is uh a purported<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">version of the third secret that a<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">French priest um in 1994 heard and I<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">want to read it and get your take on it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Again, I believe it was in the back of<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">your book where I first heard this. This<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">is allegedly what this priest in the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">1990s heard. There will be a wicked<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">council planned and prepared that will<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">change the countenance of the church.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Many will lose the faith. Confusion will<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">reign everywhere, etc. A schism will<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">tear apart the holy tunic of my son.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This will be the end times foretold in<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the holy scriptures and recall its<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">memory in by me in many places. The<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">abomination abomination will reach its<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">peak etc. Um is do you recall this<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">particular secret this addition of it<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and what do you make of that one?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Uh with many of these uh purported<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">secrets they are written<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">clearly written by people who are privy<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">to the contents of the secret. Mhm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So it may not be the verbatim text<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">exactly as our lady revealed it to the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">children,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">but the content of what she revealed is<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">is going to be there. Like uh Cardinal<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Otavani uh uh wrote uh one of these<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">apocryphal secrets. He knew he was he<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">was one of the cardinals who was there<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">present when the secret was revealed. He<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">knew what was in the secret. But in<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">order not in order to circumvent uh and<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">not violate the oath of secrecy, he had<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">to he had to give uh uh an apocryal<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">version of the secret that actually<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">tells you in substance what the secret<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">is.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mhm. So that&#8217;s usually what we&#8217;re<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">dealing with with these kind of secrets<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">because I I can say that what that<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">version of the secret says is uh the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">essential content is part of the part of<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the essential content of the third<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">secret of Fataba without any doubt. Have<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">did Father Gruner read it and did he<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">tell you the contents himself or and<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">then did you obviously the the secret<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the Vatican released in the year 2000<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that wasn&#8217;t the version that was the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">correct one? uh that was only uh<\/p>\n\n\n<p>[clears throat]<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">like the the first part of the secret<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">was the vision of hell<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and the second part of the secret was<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the uh our lady&#8217;s commentary our lady<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">explaining the vision of hell. The third<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">secret is the same way with the third<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">secret. You have the vision and that<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">vision of the third secret that&#8217;s what<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">was published in in in uh in 2000. But<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">our lady&#8217;s commentary on the secret that<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">was withheld that has not been<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">published.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And um has anybody read that Father<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Gruner yourself or anybody else?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">No. uh uh Pope Benedict of course when<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">he was cardinal he admitted that he had<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">read that he had read the secret he was<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">asked point blank in 1984 his interview<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">he said have you read the secret yes I<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">have read it so yes uh Cardinal Ratziger<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">at the time the future pope Benedict the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">16th had had read the secret and uh and<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that&#8217;s very interesting uh in in this<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">context of course that when his uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">former seminary professor<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">university [clears throat]<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">professor uh uh Dr. Ingel Dolinger<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh a very serious priest by the way who<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh went to confession 58 times to Padre<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Pio<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that&#8217;s caliber that&#8217;s the caliber of man<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">of that was Dr. Inga<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dolinger [clears throat]<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">doc Dr. Dolinger had uh a conversation<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">with<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Pope Benedict uh or Cardinal Ratzinger I<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">should say. This was he was not yet Pope<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Cardinal Ratzinger<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh shortly after the publication of the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">vision of the third secret in in June of<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh 2000.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Now it&#8217;s<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">there are a number of things that<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh Dolinger had revealed about the third<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">secret. He had said said to many people<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh the cont what are some of the points<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">of content of the third secret of<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">fatawa? Um uh he was the director of the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Immaculate Heart of Mary Seminary in uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Anapoulos uh uh Goyas state Brazil.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh the the the se some of the young<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">deacons and priests were told details<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">about uh what Cardinal Rosinger had re<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">revealed to him about the third secret<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">was was there more to the third secret<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">than what was what was published in in<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">in in June of of of 2000? Well,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dr. Der Dr. Doinger was very well aware<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">of the fact that Cardinal Ratzinger had<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">had given him specific points about what<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">is in the third secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I don&#8217;t recall exactly all the points<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">now because it&#8217;s a good number a couple<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">of decades have passed since I uh since<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I visited uh since I went to Brazil<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">talked to the young priest since I went<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">to Germany and I talked to uh uh Dr.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dolinger.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So uh I I I don&#8217;t remember all the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">details.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But this much I do know this much I<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">recall clearly<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the evil council<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh that our lady warned about not making<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">changes in the right of mass that<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">definitely<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">is there more to the third secret but uh<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">my first question was to Dr. Dr. was uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">when he told me he said I confronted<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ratiger to his face<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and he explained that they were kind of<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">celebrating a mass<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and he said during the during the mass<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">this question was burning in his mind<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">about what else is in the secret because<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">what was revealed on in June of 2000<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">does not mention those specific speific<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">points<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that Cardinal Ratzinger very explicitly<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">pointed point by point some of the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">things that are in that third secret and<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">they weren&#8217;t there those points weren&#8217;t<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">mentioned there in that uh uh vision of<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the third secret in that book called the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh the message of Fataba which<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">purportedly revealed the entire secret<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">in in in June of 2000<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and that was the problem in Dr. Oliger&#8217;s<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">mind and so his question was to Cardinal<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Razer was how can you say that the whole<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">secret is revealed because of what you<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">told me nine years ago<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ratiger was cornered<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and that&#8217;s why and that&#8217;s why doer told<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">me I confronted Ratzinger to his face so<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">at that<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">what did he say [laughter] what what did<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ratzinger say to that<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ratzinger just<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He he he was at a loss and he just<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">blurted out in German he said<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">which is really there&#8217;s more there&#8217;s<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">more to it there there&#8217;s more there&#8217;s<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">more there<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">nearly there&#8217;s more there in the secret<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">there&#8217;s more there&#8217;s more there<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">what do you make of um I know Dr. Peter<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hinowski has been making some pretty<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">interesting uh investigations into fake<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">sister Lucy. Uh do you know of that<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">theory and do you subscribe to it that<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">she was somehow deposed and there was a<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">fake person put instead of her around<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that time?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Uh again my mind is not clear on all the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">details but uh certainly the forensics<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">exam uh I think uh leads us to to<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">believe rather conclusively that uh uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh there is an identity crisis between<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the the uh the one purported to be<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">sisteri and the the historical<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">individual sister dos Santos because as<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">as the u the uh forensic expert said the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">only thing<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">these two individuals have in common is<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the religious habit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It&#8217;s a great point. Yeah. Yeah. I think<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that&#8217;s very I think I think Dr. Hoski is<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">doing some great work there.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah. He I think I think he has settled<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that question.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah. I agree.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He has he settled that question.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Uh so in that case then we&#8217;re living<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">with a um sort of industry of of fake<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">news about about this coming from the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Vatican which again would raise the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">question it&#8217;s it&#8217;s purposefully done. Uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">but to sort of shift gears here a bit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Um well let me ask you one last question<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">about about this topic because there are<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">some who will say that Malachi Martin<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">you mentioned him earlier father um is a<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">double agent or at least once upon a<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">time he was working for the bad guys if<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">you will. What&#8217;s your overall assessment<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">of father Malachi Martin?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">having known him personally I can say<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">this much regardless about what his<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">connections were uh [clears throat] sure<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">he was known as um uh progressive during<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the time of the council and uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that&#8217;s really uh not pertinent to this<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">question which is uh when he speaks<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">about the secret of Fatima<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He didn&#8217;t have to fabricate anything. He<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">didn&#8217;t have to tell any tall tales.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He knew the secret. He received uh the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">knowledge of the secret he got from<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Cardinal Bea without a doubt<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">just like uh uh father uh Hughes uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">learned the content of the secret from<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Cardinal Stretch. Uh and that was the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">one thing that uh that uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">even even if one can legitimately doubt<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">other things he said on other topics uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">this topic he was he was privy to the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">content of the third third secret and he<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">had no reason to mislead anyone.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah. When did you how did you know him?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Um in the early 90s 80s or long time<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">ago. uh in the 90s I it was only I think<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh uh the uh manuscript of my my book on<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the mass the uh the suicide of author in<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the faith and liturgy was brought to him<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and he was uh he was really very<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">impressed with the book in fact he uh uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">he called me several times on the phone<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">he called me several times uh when he<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">heard that I had come back to the United<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">States uh he wanted to talk to me and<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">again he He he couldn&#8217;t uh he couldn&#8217;t<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">get enough of talking about about that<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">book. So he he he again he called me<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">several times. He talked to me several<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">times about the book.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So that&#8217;s that&#8217;s how I got to know him.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So I knew him 96 and 97 I knew him. So<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the the very last couple of years of his<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">life is when I knew him.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah. I&#8217;ve been to his grave site in in<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">New York, upstate New York there. And I<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">always found it odd why he was buried<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">next to um uh his housekeeper. But I<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">don&#8217;t know. There&#8217;s a lot of theories<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">about Malachi Martin. We&#8217;ll probably<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">keep that for another show though cuz<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that&#8217;s a whole whole another topic. Um,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">just a couple last questions for you,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Father. Again, thanks for being here.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It&#8217;s been a great enlightening<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">educational experience. I think our<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">viewers are really enjoying the show.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Um, you knew Bishop Williamson as well.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Uh, Bishop Williamson passed away not<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">too long ago. Um what are your memories<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">of him and what was his sort of role do<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">you think in this time period when<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">there&#8217;s so few truth tellers uh that<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">really were really are left um in this<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">time<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh I have not known such a courageous<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">bishop as Bishop Williamson uh uh he&#8217;s a<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">he was a modern day athanasius he really<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">was [clears throat]<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I remember I kne I first met him he was<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">still father Williamson<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">he asked me my opinion uh should you<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">know should Archbishop Lev ordain should<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">he consecrate bishops?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Uh this was before any of the of the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">four men that were consecrated uh uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">were made bishops.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So but he asked me that question. What<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">do you think? uh do you think Archbishop<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">LeB should consecrate bishops?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And I explained to him my reasons why<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">he should consecrate bishops.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I had no idea that I was talking to one<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">of the men that he was going to<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">consecrate a bishop. I had no idea. But<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh he trusted my judgment enough that he<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">asked me that question. Now, my<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">understanding is that he was the one<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">bishop that Lev nominated when Rome<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">asked him for one bishop.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Can you confirm that? Do you know? Are<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">you aware of that?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I No, I&#8217;ve never heard that, but uh it<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">it would not surprise me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah, it&#8217;s a it&#8217;s a sort of a um maybe<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">it&#8217;s it&#8217;s a a claim often made in<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">resistance circles. I know uh among<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">others who have said that. So I&#8217;m going<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">off what I&#8217;m hearing from from them. But<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh yeah, I think that yeah, I wouldn&#8217;t<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">be surprised either. Um yeah, Bishop<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Williamson, I think. Uh did you go to<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">his funeral at all or um it was over<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">there in the UK. I know. Um<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I would I I I really wanted to, but uh I<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">had suffered a hand injury and I<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">couldn&#8217;t carry luggage or anything like<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that and I just I I just couldn&#8217;t make<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">it. So I but I prayed I I I I prayed I<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">prayed for him at my mass. And uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">interesting<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh he was uh during after his after<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">after his stroke and when he was<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">hovering between life and death. Uh I<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">was praying for him every day at mass uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">in the momento of the living. And<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">unbeknownst to me uh just after he had<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">passed into eternity I celebrated the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">mass and uh at the momentto I mentioned<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I made in the cannon of the mass I<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">mentioned his name<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and at that point and right at that<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">moment of the mass I felt his spiritual<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">presence in the chapel at on as I was on<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the altar uh mentioning his name in the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">momento of the living and the thought<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">came to my mind I I better check uh I<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">better I better check my email uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">because if I&#8217;m feeling his presence like<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh that could be that this is his soul<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that his departed soul has vis had<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">visited me uh uh uh with his presence<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that had happened with another person uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">a couple of years earlier. So I I&#8217; I<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">have experienced that phenomenon before<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh with a departed soul. So as soon as I<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">finished mass, I got up my smartphone<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and I there it was. He had just passed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">yes, he was a dear friend and I I was I<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">was so sorry to see him depart and but I<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I could not make it to his funeral.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Well, with his passing um as well as<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">your dear friend, late friend Gruner&#8217;s<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">passing um not too many years ago, uh it<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">does seem as if that um post Vatican 2<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">generation and even with Benedict&#8217;s own<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">um death uh as well. Um that that<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">generation now is um has done its hard<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">work uh and God has you know taken them<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">to their reward especially Bishop<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Williamson. Um what do you see for the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">younger folks? What is your assessment<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">of the traditional movement these days?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Vegano obviously is still a voice crying<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">out, but he&#8217;s not getting any younger.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Um, you&#8217;re like you said, semi-retired<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">now, still writing books though, which<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">is what we need. Um, but what is your<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">overall assessment of the the next<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">generation, if you will? I mean, the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">SSPX, they need bishops. Um, there&#8217;s a<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">lot of uh bishops out there elsewhere<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">throughout Europe, etc. that are tied to<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the resistance. Um, but I&#8217;ll leave it at<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that. What is your what is your view of<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">things?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Uh well, we are now uh approaching the<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">very end of this period of history.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Uh the post council<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh the counterfeit church<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh I remember back in the 1970s I read<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">about uh I read an article uh I don&#8217;t<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">know if it&#8217;s a pamphlet or an article.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It was too long ago. We&#8217;re talking about<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">roughly 50 years ago when I read this<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and recently I read it again. I found it<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">on the internet and the the most<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">interesting thing about it is it&#8217;s word<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">for word exactly what I read like 50<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">years ago. So there&#8217;s no doubt in my<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">mind this this was long before the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">internet when I first read it. It&#8217;s a<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">hard copy edition. It&#8217;s coming from<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Sanjana Roondo. I believe<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">a publication printed in Sanjana rotundo<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">by the by the capishian fathers back in<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">those days back in the 70s.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And uh the story was<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh a group of pilgrims came to Sanjan<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Roando and asked Padre Peio,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">will they live to see the triumph of the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">immaculate heart of Mary?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And Padre Peio said, &#8222;You will not live<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">to see the triumph.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I will not live to see the triumph.&#8221; But<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">then he pointed to<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">some little boys about 10 years old.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">They&#8217;re all roughly 10 years old. He<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">pointed at them and he says, &#8222;But they<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">they will see the triumph.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Now 1962 plus 10, these are 10 year old<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">kids,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">10-year-old boys. They were born about<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">1952, the year that I was born. So<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">my generation will see the triumph.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">According to Padra Peio who is I think<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the greatest saint of the 20th century.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The man who received the secret from our<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">lady herself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh the man who the saint who not only<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">unlike other saints who have been uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">given the grace of seeing apparitions of<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">our lady<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">as Pipio once said<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">in his in his in his cell in Santo he<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">says here she doesn&#8217;t appear here she<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">walks<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">beautiful<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that&#8217;s the that&#8217;s the caliber of saint<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and he&#8217;s a man who knows it, knew the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">third secret of Fatima as as well as<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">anyone could know it. He received it<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">from our lady herself and that was what<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">he said about when the triumph will take<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">place.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Do you have any<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh suspicions perhaps is the best term<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">as to when or how this might happen?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There&#8217;s been talk amongst many of my<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">friends. They compare the church post<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Vatican 2 1965 to the Babylonian<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">captivity and that lasted 70 years. 70<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">years since the close of Vatican 2 would<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">be 20 35. Is that right? Um how much<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">longer will this crisis go on and when<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">do you think we will see that?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I don&#8217;t think it will last as long as<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">2035.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I think uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">this perhaps 29 30 31 32 beyond that um<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">my this is a matter of opinion my own<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">judgment but I don&#8217;t I don&#8217;t see it<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">going beyond 2030 32 or 33 at the very<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">latest I think is when we will see the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">triumph<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and why is that father? Well, uh,<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">in<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">if I&#8217;m still around 2033, I&#8217;ll be 81<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">years old. And Padra Pio said, &#8222;People<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">my age will live to see the secret. No<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">one lives forever.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So, [snorts]<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">yes.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Even if I have longevity to live to my<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">mother&#8217;s age, 91, uh still generally<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">speaking, people my age aren&#8217;t going to<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">be living much past 80, early 80s, you<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">know,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">85 at the most. And uh so it&#8217;s going to<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">be in the early 2030s. We can reasonably<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">expect at the very latest the triumph<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">will take place then. But people my age<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh people of my generation will see the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">triumph of the immaculate heart of Mary.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That means the consecration and<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">conversion of Russia, world peace, the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">conversion of the nations to the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Catholic faith. That will be uh that<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">will take place in uh for the people of<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">my generation. So the last then this uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">against this this latest new generation<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">of traditional Catholics. This will be<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the last uh of those who resist against<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the the counterfeit church of uh of of<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">cenotalism in Vatican 2. uh because<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">there will be the return to tradition uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the church in the full glory uh of of of<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the of the apostolic traditions and the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Roman traditions and the uh the uh with<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the eastern churches with the Greek and<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Russian tradition uh uh will they will<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">they will be in in in full communion<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">with the Catholic church they will be uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">in in in the in the full glory of the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">ancient uh traditions of the Eastern<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">churches. uh that will take place in our<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">day.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We&#8217;re not talking about 20 years. We&#8217;re<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">not talking about 50 years. We&#8217;re<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">talking about just a few years from now.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This is 2025.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Less than 10 years. This will all happen<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">in less than 10 years. Uh as I think is<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">a reasonable judgment.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I think it&#8217;s reasonably certain with in<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">less than 10 years we will see that<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">triumph.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If that&#8217;s true, then Leo presumably,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">barring some severe medical or<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">accidental situation, would still be in<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">charge of the Vatican. Um, and we still<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">have to get to that time though, right?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That&#8217;s about four or five years away.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Um, what do you suspect we will be<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">facing over those next four or five<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">years? Is this the time of the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">antichrist who&#8217;s coming? There&#8217;s a war<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">going on in the Middle East. Netanyahu<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">seems to be on a mission to destroy as<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">many uh persons as possible and to<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">rebuild greater build greater Israel and<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">potentially the third temple. Um how<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">will the next five years look to you?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Uh there&#8217;s a unonymity of prophecy that<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">there will be a third world war. Our<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">lady uh revealed to blessed uh uh uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ellen Ayello to blessed Ellen Ayello<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that uh Russia will invade will march<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">across all of Europe. Russia will uh uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">battle America with secret weapons. She<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uses the word secret weapons army which<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">is secret weapons. Russia has weapons,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">weaponry that is so superior to the to<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">to the American weapons that the United<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">States does not have a chance against<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Russia, China, North Korea, Iran. Those<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">four powers<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh completely uh outclass militarily uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the NATO allies. Uh that&#8217;s why it<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[laughter] it is so insane the way the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the western leaders especially uh French<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and British the way they are uh so uh uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">hysterically uh promoting uh uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">aggression against Russia. This the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">weaker [laughter] the weaker side should<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">not be doing that because they&#8217;re going<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">to they&#8217;re going to get they&#8217;re going to<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">get clobbered. They&#8217;re going to they&#8217;re<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and our lady said that Russia will<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">invade all of Europe. And I hear people<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">saying, well, uh, they think Ukraine is<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">winning the war. This is nonsense.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Russia is not going to fight on, uh, to<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">fight against, uh, the West in this, uh,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ukrainian war forever.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Uh, I liken it to what General MacArthur<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">wanted to do during the Korean War. He<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">knew it was just an an absurd idea to<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">fight against the communist regime of<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">China in North Korea. limiting uh combat<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh to that geographical geographical<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">area uh limited to North Korea that he<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">wanted to [clears throat] take the war<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">to China and the United States in that<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">time could easily have defeated<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">communist China very easily could have<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">defeated communist [clears throat] China<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh uh people would say well that would<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">you&#8217;d risk a world war that Russia would<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">intervene no Russia would never have<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">intervened we already know that because<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">of the communication between Maong and<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh I it was Stalin at it was still<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Stalin at the time. Stalin uh Mao<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">actually requested Soviet assistance<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and Stalin&#8217;s Stalin&#8217;s reply was<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">my hands are full my hands are<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">completely full right now with Eastern<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Europe is I can&#8217;t help you.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">You&#8217;re on your own. So he basically he<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">told the communist Chinese that as far<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">as any war with the with the western<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">allies that Mao is on his own. He&#8217;s not<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">going to get any assistance from from<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Soviet Union.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Uh [clears throat]<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">now MacArthur wanted to take the war<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">into China and uh definitively uh defeat<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the communists<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and that would have successfully ended<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the war there. But instead uh Truman uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">removed MacArthur and uh the war was the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">fighting was limited to uh the Korean<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Peninsula and we know that ended. Uh it<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">ended in basically what uh a stalemate<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">which is uh effectively a a loss of the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">war. [clears throat]<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Uh but it ended in a stalemate and uh<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Putin is not going to make that kind of<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">mistake.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This man is he&#8217;s a this is this man has<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">a military mind. Uh uh people think he&#8217;s<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">a KGB man. Well, he his main career<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">was military intelligence. He was always<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">first and foremost a GRU man.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And it was as a GRU officer that he<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">became head of the KGB. But he was<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">always GRU. That&#8217;s Soviet military<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">intelligence before he became Russian<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">military intelligence. But he was always<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">military intelligence. He understands<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">enough about warfare that the way the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">way the west is aggressively uh uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">promoting pursuing this war against<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Russia using Ukraine as a staging area<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">for for for the attacks on Russia. Mhm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Uh Putin is not such an imbecile that<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">he&#8217;s going to limit his retaliation to<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">fighting on Ukrainian territory. He&#8217;s<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">going to do exactly what MacArthur<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">wanted to do. And uh unlike MacArthur<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">who had to worry about a president who<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">could fire him uh uh Putin is the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">president. So there is no president who<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">could fire President Putin. So if Putin<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">decides as commander-in-chief that he is<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">going to uh retaliate against the west<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh the the aggression uh that they&#8217;re<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">they overthrew the Ukrainian government<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">back in 2014 to install a pro-western<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">pro- NATO government to be aggressive<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">against Russia to to pursue the policy<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">of the the project of the new American<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">century which goes back all the way to<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the George W. Bush administration which<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">was they wanted to uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">partition Russia and uh basically divide<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Russia up in and break it up into little<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">countries.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Make an end of Russia entirely.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Uh and uh so Putin understands perfectly<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that the survival of Russia as a nation<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">nation depends on uh not allowing uh the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">western allies uh to defeat Russia<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">because that means the end of Russia. So<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">what what Putin is going to do what<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Putin is going to do as the as the west<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">becomes more aggressive<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh against Russia using Ukraine as a<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">staging area for attacking Russia to<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">wage war against Russia Putin will<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">respond by uh by escalating the war<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">expanding it to all of Europe. He will<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">invade all of Europe. He will take all<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">of Europe. He will take it very quickly.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It will be a blitzcream.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Now, is it true that Father Gruner<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">visited Russia ever? And I think Francis<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">also spoke with um Putin himself and<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Putin asked about the our lady of Fatima<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and Francis demeured on the subject and<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">he said we don&#8217;t talk about that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah. Yeah. I my my mind is big on the<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">details now but uh uh Francis did not<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">want to uh Francis was not interested in<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">in in that kind of a discussion. uh but<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh with this I can say<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh prophecy is very clear<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh Russia there will be the attack<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Russia will invade Europe uh St. Luigi<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Orion<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh spoke of how this war will affect the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">United States.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">You know, our lady said to blessed Elena<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">about the the invasion of Europe and<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Russia will invade Europe. Uh she said,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8222;Russia will attack Russia will battle<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">America with secret weapons.&#8221; But it was<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">St. Luigi Orion who gave us this very<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">important detail in his prophecy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He said that millions of Americans<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">because of the devastation and<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">destruction in North America, millions<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">will flee to South America, many to to<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">to Argentina and they will transfer uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">they will they will basically immigrate<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">to uh to to Argentina by the millions<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">because the United States is going to be<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">so devastated uh by a tremendous war.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It&#8217;s going to be a it&#8217;s going to be a<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">very uh destructive war. It&#8217;s going to<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">devastate North America.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah, I think it&#8217;s it&#8217;s really<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">interesting because I recall Bishop<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Williamson having actually given quite a<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">few words of praise to Putin for<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">fighting, you know, wokeism and<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">defending generally like a sort of<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Christian view of the family etc. And I<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">think he gave a sermon in Poland when he<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">consecrated Bishop Stop Nikki who was<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">one of the resistance bishops and he was<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">saying look like the bad guys are is the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">west really. It&#8217;s not necessarily Putin.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So, I don&#8217;t know if he was he was<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">sharing what you&#8217;re saying about Russia<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">going into Europe and invading because<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">it does seem the West is trying to<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">provoke that almost and and maybe you&#8217;re<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">saying<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the West is trying to provoke Russia but<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">they don&#8217;t know in their madness they<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">don&#8217;t understand that they are uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">provoking a giant who is going to to<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">slaughter them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I I I<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh I I have not seen I&#8217;ve seen Putin<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">exercise restraint though over the last<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">many years.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That&#8217;s right.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It&#8217;s hard for me to say like I I agree<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">with all of that. I I again I haven&#8217;t<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">read the the prophecies you&#8217;re talking<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">about, but I it&#8217;s hard to me for me to<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">think he he wants to go and do all that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I think he does want multipolarity and a<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">um Europe for Europe, Russia for Russia,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">etc. But I could be wrong.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yes. Yes, he does. He&#8217;s that&#8217;s what he<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">wanted. But the thing is uh his hand is<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">going to be forced. Uh if the western<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">propaganda is nonsense, they they<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">compare Putin to Hitler as if he&#8217;s an<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">expansionist. He&#8217;s uh uh he&#8217;s a he&#8217;s a<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">psychopath who wants to conquer the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">world. This is this [laughter] is just<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">this is just uh blatant propaganda. It&#8217;s<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">nonsense. If Putin wanted to take Europe<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and fight North America, he could<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">already have done it and he could have<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">defeated he could have won the war<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">already. He could have done it. If he<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">wanted to, he would have already done<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Putin has wanted uh to to keep peace and<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">order in the world. But the West<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">responds with hostility and with not<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">just hostility but with with the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">criminal intentions of of of uh of<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">breaking up Russia, partitioning it and<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and and and forming a a new group of<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">countries out of the former uh uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Russian Federation. That&#8217;s that&#8217;s what<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">they&#8217;ve had in mind. Putin knows very<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">well that this in their documents. It&#8217;s<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">in the official documents that were<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">published more than 20 years ago that<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">this was the intention uh uh American<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">foreign American foreign policy was<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">ordered toward this intention of of<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">bringing this about.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Putin knows they want to destroy Russia,<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">they want to conquer Russia and take it<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">over.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And uh so Putin uh knows that in spite<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">of in spite of wanting to keep peace,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">not wanting war. Uh he&#8217;s been very<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">patient. He&#8217;s been incredibly patient.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mhm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But uh when push comes to shove, he&#8217;s<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">going to push back and he&#8217;s going to<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">push back hard. Uh and when he does uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">due due to the very nature of uh of the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">kind of war that it&#8217;s going to be, it&#8217;s<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">going to be a very destructive war.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Uh there was a uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh a holy nun who uh and seer who a<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">mother I can&#8217;t remember her of her I<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">can&#8217;t from Malestra I think was the town<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">she came she was from uh mother of<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">malestra uh she some of some of her<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">prophecies have been very uh uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">remarkably fulfilled<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and uh uh one of the things she said was<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that uh the Russian occupation in<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Europe. She was think speaking<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">specifically about France. She said it&#8217;s<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">going to be a brutal occupation be a<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">very brutal occupation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Uh but she said it will last less than a<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">year.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So that&#8217;s what we&#8217;re looking at.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Devastation in North America, the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">annihilation of Canada. Padre Pio did<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">speak on one occasion. He said a North<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">American country is going to be<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">completely annihilated. He didn&#8217;t in<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that particular occasion. He didn&#8217;t say<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">which one but we know we know from uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Pope Pius I 12th quoted<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">by those who were present in the Vatican<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">when he opened the third secret of<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Fatima he&#8217;s referring to Canada<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">what role do you think Israel is playing<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">in all this it seems obviously they are<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">blackmailing the entire western world<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">with all their intelligence and they&#8217;re<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">inciting the conflict in the Middle East<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">still it seems that the US&#8217;s alliance<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">with Israel is really leading the charge<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">in this And um fortunately though,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">however, there&#8217;s a lot of young people<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">politically in the US. 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As Father<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Fahi said, um some say Father Fehee um<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">said, you know, years ago that organized<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">naturalism and uh the forces of<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">antichrist will come to um a situation<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">potentially the one that we are seeing<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">right now.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah. Well, I think I think you&#8217;ve<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">summed it up pretty accurately there. Uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">the the the role of the role of Israel<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">um in in in in making all the uh the the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">worst events happen now in in<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">international politics, the the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">geopolitical uh uh the geopolitical<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">crisis that we see uh uh uh coming to a<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">head at at the present time. Israel<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">plays unfortunately a very great role u<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">in in [clears throat]<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">a very great a very cable role in that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah, it makes sense to me that those<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">who rejected Christ would have a<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">particular role to play in in this<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">moment when it seems antichrist is um uh<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">either as St. Pius the 10th once said,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">you know, coming soon or at least are<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">doing his bidding. So, we&#8217;ll definitely<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">uh what do you advise people to do,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">father? Uh last question for you today<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">again thanks for being here. Um in these<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">in these years ahead, is it to do the<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">first Friday for Saturday devotions? um<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">you know daily rosary. Bishop Williamson<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">was big on saying 15 decades a day. What<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">is your spiritual advice?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">15 decades of the rosary uh for<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Saturdays for example. And I think it<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">was Pyra Pio. What did he say? Uh pray<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">hope and don&#8217;t worry.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Sounds good to me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Prayer is the ultimate weapon.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Amen. Well, if you could say a um mass<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">for for us and our viewers, that&#8217;d be<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I&#8217;m sure greatly appreciated. Uh,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">everyone loves you here that watch this<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">show and um, please keep up the great<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">work and we look forward to your next<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">book.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Definitely. Uh, I&#8217;ll keep I&#8217;ll keep your<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">work in my mass intentions and uh, you<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">can count on that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Well, thank you so much, father, for<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">being here again. Father Paul Kramer,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">everybody, get his books on Amazon. I&#8217;ll<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">put the links in the show notes today.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Thanks everybody for watching and God<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">bless.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Stephen Kokx: Jak d\u0142ugo jeszcze potrwa ten kryzys i kiedy my\u015blisz, \u017ce go zobaczymy? >> Fr Kramer: Nie s\u0105dz\u0119, \u017ceby trwa\u0142 tak d\u0142ugo, jak 2035 rok. To kwestia opinii, mojego os\u0105du, ale nie s\u0105dz\u0119, \u017ceby wyszed\u0142 poza 20, 30, 32 lub 33 rok w najbli\u017csz\u0105 sytuacj\u0119. 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